Alright guys, so I've read the Art of Seduction and basically I just want to be a Casanova, Don Juan, or an Errol Flynn. I mean, these guys were amazing. And aside from Errol Flynn, the other other guys didn't have celebrity status. Casanova and Don Juan, as far as I know, had to start from the same position that us 'mortals' are in/did. I want to be that; but it's hard as shit. I went out tonight to try and make a bold move on a girl that I've been talking to. I was gonna go to her house and make light hearted conversation. She wasn't home. So instead of telling her I was on my way, I talked to her on the phone bringing up a text msg question that she never answered. It was, do you like Italian food? Her reply: "Yeah I do. But if I were to go eat it, it would be with my parents, my friends, my brother, or the guy that I told you I'm talking to. I can see your persistent, but it's a little weird."
Damn guys, I stayed strong, stayed light hearted, and just wished her safe driving since she was driving. I hung up right after that. This is hard business -seducing women. I'm going to stay persistent in learning how to do it right. But it's just like a kick in the nuts and it's not the easiest thing to recover from. I feel like I just got to keep reading, keep implementing it, and keep trying to become a 21st Century Casanova. Any suggestions on material to read/watch/words of wisdom/a point in a direction?

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your problem is perhaps reading books and trying to do what a book is saying. People who are writing books write it from their personality or their perspective which is different than yours. One thing I don't do is ask a question a second time that she didn't answer. It sounds like you are leading down the path of, "lets go eat Italian food" but she may not want to eat Italian food with you and you should of figured that out when she ignored your text about it. If she ignores a topic, don't come back to it. a good learning tool for you would be to read this forum. Read peoples questions and read the responses. Over a few weeks or months, you start to see trends in their behaviors. It seems like you are trying to be someone you aren't. You are a long way from being "Casanova" if you are frustrated over that one situation.

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Hi there,

first thing i am going to say is: i love the fact that you have balls enough to pull a bold move. Really, hang on to that, it is one of your best weapons .

secondly, i ve read that book as well. Like 100 times or so . Unlike many others, this was the book that led me into seduction and PUA. However, the art of seduction is a tough book. Its the best, really, but since the stories in the book are about old age, you need to think about what you are doing. you need to put it in a today context. Many of the barriers from the old days are still here, be in another form then described in the book.

Also, this book is about seduction, not PUA. many people dont see a difference there, but i do. Dont be casanova. Dont be yourself either. Seduction is all about being that person that your target cannot resist.

Also, see the rules in the book as techniques. Almost every one of them is a technique. But read carefully and apply carefully. Because you need to see the context of the technique in which it is used. You need to notice that those techniques are in a flow of time. The further you go in the book, the more time that has been passed in the seduction, the more conditions there are for the technique to be efficient.

IN that context, the entire situation you are describing is a bit weird yeah . Your timing was off .

two more things that are generally useful in pua and seduction:

1) patience. If you dont have patience and rush rush, people are going to see right through you.

2) at all time, you need to be as emotionally uninvolved towards the outcome as possible. Any technique, be it seductive, pua or both, has a lot more potency if you are ready to drop the target and leave it alone.


cheers and good luck.

if you have more questions, shoot!

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