I live near a town called Los Gatos in the bay area. To those of you who don't know, that town is filled with rich hot wives with nothing to do all day. The best place to approach them seems to be the local whole foods because they're mostly alone while shopping. How would I go about opening them? I'm thinking about a more direct approach. What are your opinions?

Like any other girl.
May be comment on some product they are looking or grabbing it.
When you begin to game them, banter, and make offers be prepared to answer any of the statements:
“You are so young for me”
“How old are you?”
“You could be my son.”
or similar.
This in case you are much younger then them or close to their age but your face looks younger.

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You can go direct or indirect if they have kids man. Both ways there are a few things to have in mind. Less is more when you speak to them the rest is just your normal game. As far as opening goes I'd suggest you open with an observational opener if you go indirect:
Look at her body so she could notice smile go up and say:
"Hey do you do *insert sport or dancing type*. You have the * body part. I'm new to town and I was wondering if you know where I can practice that."
Now for a direct opener you can just go up and say:
"Hi what's your name"
But if you want to go really direct I'd suggest just be very bold but relaxed when you deliver:
"Hey, I'm gonna be honest with you I like older women and I like you."
Hold your frame and be prepared for a lot of shit tests thrown at you like your age but if you can maintain the frame and not look like a creep she'll bite.

Good luck

Thanks for the advice guys If they shit test me about my age, I'll just say something like "nah, you're not too old for me (slyly smile)" and continue with gaming them.

Remember that one line to use it when girls say you're young for them:
"You're right. In ten years from now, I'd be forced to leave you for a younger, sexier version of a girl that looks exactly like you."

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I actually grew up in the bay area and I know exactly what you're talking about.


I'm still pretty young and I have never tried hitting on a MILF. I actually got scared when I got hit on by one at a club.

But they are women nonetheless so game them normally. Be cocky and funny, they probably like being in the company of a young stud. With women of the same age group it's easier if you go direct, but with MILFs I think it might be better to go indirect. You got to throw yourself at them and entice them with your youthful energy.

Make them want you, as if it's her idea that she should bring you back to her place.

Just wondering, what would you think would happen if they told you that you were too young. Then you threw back at them, "Well to be honest, I actually thought you were too young for me at first, but we can make it work, unless your immature for your age". Cocky funny and is also a compliment.

Let us know how did you do.

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Tip 1 - Detach yourself from society's indicators:
-Detach your previous beliefs that this woman wants you to "be nice" or "provide for her" in order to get sex. Cougars/milfs do not have sex with "nice guys"... they might have sex with "providers" (guys who buy them stuff and pay for things) but there will be little to no attraction there and it won't be fun. Replace the expensive dinners and flowers with demonstrations of your aspirations. Know yourself... having good inner game is paramount with cougars. A good drill to better know yourself is to write all of your goals in life down on a piece of paper. Then write what steps you've already taken in life to reach those goals. Have a good game plan about how to convey those aspirations and accomplishments to the cougar/milf by ways of story telling or some sort of indirect method.

Tip 2 - Open with comedy/be the "fun guy":
-Remember, all the guys her age are old and salty. You most likely can't compete with their money or their status. Don't try... compete on a level of fun and know that you are more fun than pretty much 90% of old guys. Don't confuse this for being "high energy." I just opened a 41 y/o cougar at starbucks with Cajun's "mustache opener." (What do you think about mustaches??? No, on guys)

Tip 3 - Kino Escalate quickly:
-HB-9 and HB-10 Cougars/milfs are probably the only women who value their time as much as you do. If you don't use kino on milfs/cougars you'll loose them quickly. I constantly get this line from the cougars I hit on: "You've gotten me in bed faster than any of the other guys I've been dating for months." The 41 y/o cougar I mentioned earlier was had been on 5-6 dates with 3 different men prior to meeting me and she was getting bored but I was fun. She told me it took them that long to kiss her and that totally turned her off. I've noticed that if I typically don't get a kiss-close within 4 hours, I'm off pace and not much is going to come of a pickup of a cougar/milf.

Tip 4 - Keep her "social obligation world" different from your "happy action fun time world."
-I constantly have hot milfs/cougars who want me to meet their kids... VERY BAD IDEA. The second her "sex world" meets with her "personal world" you cease to exist as a potential sexual being. Let's face it... you'll never be able to be a father to some 15-17 year old kid who is meeting you for the first time. You'll become competition for the ex-mate. Keep your world as the fun world and don't mix the two if you want to score. You want your world to be the world of "less social obligation." You don't want her to neglect her kids while she is in your world... but you want the time she spends with you to be a break from her reality. She's gotta think about a million things to take care of her kids. Take that obligation from her and show her a fun time. Date ideas that are good are active things that her ex doesn't do. Walking on the beach or hiking are really easy and cheap date ideas. Dinner and a movie is a VERY bad date idea. You'll remind her of her ex. If you want to be really fun use one of your early dates to help her make a "bucket-list." Physically write it down on paper. I actually have a corner of my apartment with an easel. On that easel it says "Punkox's bucket-list" (or something like it). It ALWAYS gets a comment when I bring a lady into the appartment. It's a great idea if you want to show aspirations.

Tip 5 - Don't be scared to make a move:
Compliance testing and kino escalation will help you see when she's ready for the kiss. When you get that feeling don't hold back. She wants a man who can handle himself. She's been dating AFC's for a long time and you're the furthest thing from an AFC that she's seen for a long time. You've got that going for you... so go ahead... pucker up... give her that kiss!!!

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Good thread.

I deal with and LOVE milfs/cougars. I must say one of the most important things when dealing with older women is, energy, fun, and maturity. Now, when I say being mature, I simply mean not acting like a child or immature bitch. For example, being indecisive, not knowing when to chill the fuck out. Be poised, smooth, sexy, dont smile to much, and dont afraid to escalate. Older women want this because they have been dealing with chods probably since the day myself and many other of you were born. also, the kids...try to stay away from that unless you really want to go there..im 19 and a girl I recently dated was 32. I met her kids and then she began to slowly integrate them into our relafiionship. I began to feel like a father for a while..she paid for EVERYTHING we did considering I am a college student with little money..so mh suggestion would be to stay away from the kids unless its what you want and plan on being serious with her.

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Slugger

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I'm new here, my first post.

I'm what people call a natural, and have slept with more than my fair share of women. Well above-average, apparently.

The only way to pick up women during the day, especially MILF's, is be helpful, or get them to help YOU.

Just like how you started this thread with a question, it's best to go in and start with either a question or an answer.

"Excuse me, do you know where I can find ....?"
"Her let me get that for you." Reach for whatever it is.

Smile at her. Whatever you do, don't be prepared to answer statements from her. "You're young enough to be my son." Means she is halfway interested in you already.

Don't use "lines", just have a good day out shopping.

Haha...not even that complicated...just open directly..simple as that.Unless your talking 60 & over...

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Hey, it's my first post, and being from New Zealand, women are slightly different here. If I was in the States, BAM, so much easier with an accent. lol

I agree with you a lot of MILFS in Los Gatos haha

..lots of great advice here on opening MILFs. I have a related question, but perhaps deserving a separate page, as the MILF is my cousin!! I'll start a new topic on it and see if anyone has any advice on it.