There's a girl HB9 who I've broken the ice with, she's year below me at 6th form and has plenty of guys after her. I'm trying to get out of being an AFC and hope pulling this off will boost confidence and game, proving to myself that I can pull good looking girls. Don't know how to further this, assuming it would be to get her number but I find it difficult with her friends about on the rare occasions I see her. Need ideas on how to do this and not seem like an AFC plus being a better option than all the better looking guys after her

I don't know what 6th form is and I don't know enough about the situation.

I have approached hundreds of girls and very few dig me.

Don't get your hopes up too high. I say go out and practice sarging on tons of strange women. Get some experience under your belt. Then when you meet someone in your social circle you will have some street credit. I am personally very cautious about gaming girls that are closely connected to me like at school or whatever. Hope that helps.

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Well dont refer yourself as an AFC anymore...wrong mindset!

@Reality show: 6th form is an english thing, its 17-18 year olds studying A-levels before going off to uni

@Kururunfa: Like Br3ezy said, stop calling yourself an AFC its the wrong mindset.

Right now your being very negative and how you think does affect how you act, its the same principle of I am hungry and then you get food. What you need to do is start some positive thinking of yes I can do this!!!

Its obvious other guys are going after her, but they have not managed it yet have they because they are the AFC not you.

You have broken the ice but from sounds of it that means you have talked to her once or twice, my suggestion (since Im going to assume your both under age for drinking and even if you are I doubt she is if she is in year below you) ask your mates if they fancy going bowling or laser tag or something that can be done as a group activity but also allow people to chat and agree on the day with your mates before hand.

Then next time you see her with her friends just casually shout hi to them, then do a funny routine such as (i don't take credit for this routine forgot who came up with it)

you: "Could I get some fashion advice real quickly only I cant work out if my mate (or female cousin or sister if you have one) is winding me up or being genuine with me in telling me that its cool to wear odd socks?" and show them that your wearing odd socks

If they respond with "Yes" or something along that line simply go "oh cool I guess its also true when she/they told me that shaving my legs is cool aswell" then pull up your trouser legs to reveal shaved legs

If they respond with "no" or something along that line then respond with "Great, I suppose next you will be telling me its not cool to shave my legs" Then reveal your shaved legs.

(If you don't feel comfortable doing this routine then find another one that is just as funny and can be done to the whole group at once, this was just the best one I could think of that has actually worked for me in the past)

Make sure you always have a smile on your face and don't single her out in this conversation so that it seems like your just having a genuine chat to the whole group and have very little if no interest in her at all (this will stop her form thinking your chatting her up)

As soon as you have done this just then say very casually while looking between them all "Anyway me and my mates are going to -insert venue- on -insert day- and inviting a fair few people out with us if some of you are interested?" (this suggest your a social guy who everyone wants to hang out with)

If they say no, just turn round and go "No problem, maybe next time." give them a nod and a smile and walk off unless they start up a conversation with you as you turn your back on them (then just be yourself and have a normal chat with them as though they are your mates)

If some or all of them say yes then just respond with "Mind if I swap numbers with a couple of you in case plans get changed or in case you lot can't make it so we all arn't waiting around" If any of them are slightly interested in you, they will swap numbers with you.


What all this does is it creates what is known as comfort, it makes not just her but her friends feel comfortable hanging around you. And when they do come hang out with you or invite you out with them somewhere that is when you will want to move to the seduction stage, but I will be happy to go more into that once you have let us all know how its gone.

Also, I am not the best PUA out there so if any more experienced PUAs disagree with what I have said and offer some better advice Id take it ok, i can only tell you based on what has worked for me in the past. But essentially right now you want to get to a stage where you hang out with them but don't seem too force full or like you are their lap dog who will run after them.

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