Getting to the point where I'm decently comfortable at approaching. Now, here's the sticky point.

I feel like whether it's online, in person or in the drive thru (I've n-closed quite a few of those) I get a lot of flake outs and just dead air in text.

Here are some questions:

1) Am I doing it wrong if I just get the number, talk for another minute, leave, and make plans to meet over text? Or should I make plans right away
2) When the conversation dies via text, instead of send a second text in a row, I usually just give up and move on if not enough rapport has been established to meet... am I giving up too soon/too easily? (this happened with HB8 today that I n-closed)
3) When should I make plans?
4) WHY THE FUCK DO THEY KEEP FLAKING? I'd say 60% of them flake.

my friend

only get the number as a logistics tool.

you're doing good with approaching

somewhere in your interaction say something along the lines of "You're really cool, we need to hangout sometime." She'll say 'Sure' if you seem like a cool dude

THEN AND ONLY THEN get her number. This reduces flaking a lot, and also reduces the 'no response to text girls'.

This works because the girl will be congruent to what she previously said. Girls know that if a guy just asks them for their number, it's like a reward or satisfaction for the guy. When you make plans to meetup before you ask, it's more genuine.

Nowadays I don't even follow this method, I must have kissed the girl, or taken her on an instadate before I get the number. But I don't think you're at this level yet.

What's your text convo like? Post the most recent one of a girl you number closed off a cold approach.

The best time to get a number is right after you make her laugh, (mental thing) its triggerd in her mind she has a good time with you(remembers you next time) if you are the boring guy like the other dudes. She will be like ok my number, and forgot WHO ARE YOU? in the text.

Flakes, a girl who is very cute, over 8 on the 1-10 scale, probable gets 5+ men daily when she goes out that talks to her in line somewhere etc.... If you had a camera on a hot woman in public you wouldn't believe it.. They are in demand, men arn't get with the program.

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing. Formally newpua2012, lost my pw

Thanks for the advice. I am actually doing better and better with every approach. Number closed a girl working at the store today and her manager yelled "hey dude, THIS AIN'T THE CLUB" haha.

Here's my text conversation with the one I was asking about.

Me: "Dear ____, the smart and creative rusty lemonade drinker (she had this weird workout drink shit), I hope you had a chance to work off some of that aggression in the gym."

Her: "Haha!! So true. Yes, thankfully some of that aggression has chipped away. Thanks for the compliments btw I apparently seem to be a bottomless pit for them, especially when wearing gym clothes.. xx"

Me: "Compliments? All I did was stop you on the street because you looked like you'd provide me with a good laugh. Your ego is showing... uh oh."

Her: "Hahaha! Oh dear. My poor ego again."

Me: "You should really keep that in check. You'd be so fun otherwise. How can you make up for that?"

Her: "Haha! A lifetime of closet praying perhaps. Too much projected aggression needs serious reflection."

Me: "I was thinking more along the lines of, you owe me at least one drink and not of that lemonade shit."

Her: "Haha! Maybe you could share what you had left in that box with me and wash it down with my rusty lemonade lmao."

Me: "Whoa. I can see you like to move fast and all, but how do I know you don't go psycho when you get some liquor in you? I bet you're a crier."

Her: "Haha! the crying part is true."

Me: "I knew this was a bad idea. At least you're a good painter. You should paint and I'll compose music for it and we'll take this act on the road."

Her: "Sounds like a gypsy caravan mr. Fleur de lis" (I wear a Fleur de Lis ring on my finger, it's a New Orleans emblem)

Me: "Speaking of, have you ever been to New Orleans?"

that's it. She had a wedding ring on I think though. So, I'm not sure if I did anything wrong.

Dude, you didn't even read my post. Those are NOT my problems.

1) Number closing is not my issue. When I actually get the balls to approach a girl, I almost always get a number. I've cold approached 8 and gotten 6 numbers since reading MM --- the other 2 were my first 2 cold approaches.

2) I'm not boring. I'm a touring musician who doesn't need a day job, I'm good looking and well dressed. I'm witty and sarcastic, and I also use some of the most creative openers ever --- they're all my original stuff too. I'm also one of the few white guys in this Armenian/Filipino part of L.A. Ain't no way they're forgetting me.

3) No shit they get approached a lot. I appreciate responses but please read my post before you insult my intelligence and tell me to "get with the program"

wow guys dont hate we are all on the same side... just typ in google bar attraction through text that wil get you on your way... the only thing i noticed in the texting was that she didnt ask you a question.. that not good and in the first text she put 2 xx on the end i would see this as a fuck off im busy... just don't text her for a week and after text her that you have been on a date or your going on a date and you need her advice be creative... good luck

^ yeah listen to this guy... not

You're text game is awesome bro a few mistakes but nothing major, and the girl you're talking to is pretty cool

the mistakes... you're a tad bit too random, like it's good to change topics but when you do it so much it just gets weird.

Also should have pushed for a meetup after she said "Haha! the crying part is true."

That's it, your text game is solid brah, just gotta work on a few things

Thanks man. I'm really trying. This one was a tough one. Wedding ring, HB8, going to the gym? I can't even believe I approached her. But I think you're right. Next time I'll get her!