It can be hard and challenging for creating status and depending on which environment you may be, also the RSD guy julian talks you should be that sweaty, fukin jerky bad boy, but the thing with that if your not that already then your faking it, rembembember what David Deangelo said? women are 10X better reading body language than men.. so you need to be yourself? the thing is important what he said was Frames.. and beliefs.. how much of us bought into it? I mean he has very good things to say.. I learned here.. but a few things I didn't agree fully.. but he's made his frame work I think you, instead of being like julian you have to make your own frame work from your deep insights from your own beliefs and etc piece..

Pretty sure you guys taking my post out of context

OP isn't going to be banging hot girls any time soon.

Also Julien's shit is good, went out with him a couple times.

^This is a good post . . . I'd like to hear why some of you don't like it. Hey, I'm a fan of rooting for the guys and offering positive support but all of this Richard Simmons everybody hug the fat guy bs is getting ridiculous. Wake up people.

1. Look. . . no girl, unless she's got some fatty fetish going on is going to stare down a fatty and drool. There's a reason why all the male models, male exotic dancers, male sexual figures, actors, celebrities . . . are are ALL FIT. Women desire GOOD BODIES. Sure, once every two years or so, they'll pick some fat sap or some bald dude for the "fat-bald guys can be sexy too article" and stick him on the front page of the magazine for the politically correct issue but let's get real. . . There's a real World . . . and there's a World that dreamers imagine. . . you know, the fantasy land where every ugly fatty who's remembers to behave like a "ceo" or memorizes a few lines or is very, very, very confident gets to fuck hb 10's night after night.

2. You guys speak of confidence as if its some spiritual quality that exists on its own. Look, if you've been a fatty all your life and kids called you fatty cakes since you were 7, there's no amount of proclamations that will raise your confidence. There is a reason why people who actually lose weight exclaim, "My confidence is now through the roof." If you want to be a confident boxer, then start training. If you want to be confident for your test, then start studying. If you want to be confident about your body being well received by the opposite sex, then go to the gym. The guy who's "confident" about a test but did not study is a lying retard.

3. Having written 2 and 3 above . . . is your weight the most important thing? Probably not . . . but the problem with being fat is that it tends to go hand in hand with a lot of negative things in regards to PU. Apologies to the politically correct fat awareness police but . . If you're fat . . .hey, you let yourself go. You don't care about the way you look. You don't really pay attention to what you eat. You have no self control. You don't like yourself enough to take care of yourself. You have no pain threshold to go to the gym and suck it up for an hour. Every fatty says that ^all of this is absolutely not true. . . until they actually lose weight. Then they say, "I can't believe what a lazy asshole I used to be. . ."

So in essence, the fat is bad enough . . . but what the women really get turned off on are the stereotypes (which are all generally true) that are associated with fatties.

4. Girls are absolutely different than guys. We want the final product. A fatty can tell us that she's going to the gym every day and she's already lost 50 pounds. We tell her, "Good for you, call me after you lose 50 more."

Girls on the other hand have better imaginations. She can clearly see that a guy who's already lost 50 pounds, going back to school, found himself an Internship is on his way to WIN. She can sense the confidence. She can feel the future in the guy. She can feel the energy. . . this is what women fall for. They don't necessarily fall for the money, they fall for the skills that a guy owns that allows him to make money. Women can imagine the possibilities. Men want it here and now.

*Regarding the video. I think it's a hoot that a faggy toy-boy band looking kid with waxed hair is telling his audience to fuck the "pretty boy" (what he is) and go for the fat CEO gig. Act! Act! Take my acting school now! The guy looks like an absolute moron thinking he's behaving like a CEO with that Russian accent ordering people around. . . Really. . . you don't have to make an ass of yourself to get laid. . .

1. Start up a journal.(Whether you choose to keep one on the FR section or not is u to you)
2. Get a personal trainer. Write up your gym schedule in the journal. Hit it like religion.
3. If your goal is to get lucky and sleep with one or two hotties, start sarging now. Sarge enough and you are bound to find something, somewhere and somehow, get down to business. If you want to really figure this game out. . . wait a few weeks. Start losing weight. . . maybe 10 pounds. 10 pounds is nothing. I go up and down 10-15 pounds every year. Lose the 10 pounds and then reward yourself by give yourself free reign to sarge. Meanwhile, study up on the game. Read a few books. . . develop your own stuff. Let your confidence in your new found knowledge for pick up match your new found confidence in your self from actually losing weight and improving yourself.

Agreed.

Your post is more thoughout than the other guys. His was more fucked up. Yours is too. But it makes more sense.

I am the first to admit that looks matter. But are they the only thing? Nope. There are plenty of pretty boys who don't get laid. Even you admit that weight isn't the most important thing.

Should the OP try to lose weight? Sure. I did (it also helped that I got taller). Hitting the gym is a good thing. It improves your overall health. But a personal trainer is a waste of money. What does Kevin James and Jason Segel have in common? They are all big guys with hot women (James is married with two kids). Sure they are celebrities and have money. But Ben Roethlisberger is more famous and makes more money than both of them and he had to rape girls to get it in.

The point is that if you have game and your a confident guy you can get a girl. You should probably watch the video FlaiR_RUA posted again.

How do you get confidence? For me I read a self improvement book and started the process of changing my life. If the OP was skinny he probably wouldn't be getting any girls. He just seems too self conscious in general and has to work on that.

I have seen plenty of fat asses with hot girls. And they would dump them. Why? They had game. They had confidence.

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Try to live your life like your dream is real

It's not any perceived limitations that reduce your chances with women, but rather how much you buy into these limitations that will affect your success.

If you see yourself as too fat to game women, then of course it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Pretty much what he said.

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Redundant. Already agreed.
It also improves confidence and daily habits.
Absolutely not. Somebody who's never spent time in the gym has absolutely no idea what to do there. Hell, I'd say that a majority of Div I college athletes waste time in the gym because they know so little about training. The OP does not strike me as a gym rat. It's the best money he'll ever spend. . .
Agreed and I understand your point but it doesn't seem you've taken statistics yet.
From what I just saw, the guy is a one dimensional dvd peddling flake. What he demonstrates is that he can be an obnoxious pretty boy and get laid. If that bald guy sitting in the audience took that route, he would get arrested.
I am suggesting the same thing. Not sure what your "process" was but for the OP, losing weight is it. He came in here with his confidence and self worth wrapped around this issue.
Not all fatties are the same.

Are you suggesting that I can't dunk a basketball because I do not believe I can? Are you suggesting that if I thought "fatties are hot, fatties are hot," girls will actually grade fatties higher on the fuckability scale?

New flash. A girl is a human being with a brain, mind, opinions, and everything. . . and the last time I checked the it seems that their brains and minds dream and fantasize about good looking, fit men. . . not fatties. If you know of a special Yoda mind trick or meditation exercise that can change this dynamic, please let me know.

You misunderstood my statement. A fit, in-shape guy can have issues with women if he believes he is socially inept, intellectually challenged, etc (pick your poison). His belief has nothing to do with objective reality, as you'd call it, but rather that he has bought into any of these self-defeating beliefs and therefore has made them a part of his reality (e.g., will stumble over himself verbally if he believes he has poor communication skills, even if in reality he doesn't, he will simply filter in any information that can be construed (or misconstrued) to fit this reality.

I'm not saying being fat would help with gaming women, quite the contrary. If you're unattractive go workout, buy some decent looking clothes - things you can control. That said, its certainly not impossible for a fatty to attract a good looking woman, rare as it may be.

Ps. I deducted 3 points from your reputation on account of your being poor at comprehension.

A friend of mine is overweight and yet is somehow very adept at not only pulling attractive women, but also stealing them from their long term boyfriends. I have no idea how he does it.

can you? sure you can
is it likely? fuck no
approach 2000 hb11s with a decent game plan and you just may fuck one, confidence and indifference is key

your friends are possibly trying to motivate you, make you feel better, and techniqually telling the truth all in one
yes you can get good looking girls if you try now, and you should try now, trying now will lead you to better skills later especially since the vast majority of all your sets will treat you poorly and give you negative reactions, you will grow a nice set of balls and become more indifferent later on when you manage to become fit, just don't do it for the results, do it to build your balls up and gain skills, learn how to get enjoyment out of meeting and socializing with women

don't be a pussy, do both, not one or the other, it can take a long as time if you are going the natural root and already have bad habits developed, most guys give up and can't stay consistent in the gym, just like they give up and can't stay consistent in pickup, finding some discipline in either of these areas will help you improve your life in general

develop will power man, and create a skillset and good habits for yourself, pickup is not some magical fairytale land bunch of bullshit where you walk into a club and every girl there wants to suck your dick because you have some magic pressence all of a sudden since you are good looking or read an e-book

good game comes from approaching thousands upon thousands of women, and being around them a lot, facing your fears over and over again, as well as having a bunch of positive/negative experiences that present recocurring patterns to you that lead to you assosiating ''don't say or do this'' to certain things, as well as a deeper understanding of ''what to do'' and ''why'' you are doing that, even after doing it countless times you just become desensitized and some of your biggest fears/anxieties to begin with, but they still exist to some degree

if this is a thread of do looks matter?, yes they do, but it's a waste of your time to not start approaching girls now and ''wait until Im good looking enough'', that time will never come, you will always find a way to feel inadequate if you are lacking self esteem

the vast majority of women you approach while being fat, won't sleep with you, just like the vast majority of women you approach while being fit, won't sleep with you, the only difference is, more compliance and better responses in general when fit, and your dating pool becomes wider in selection, less effort, more results

also, wtf is up with all this RSD shit lately, think for yourselves and use real world first hand reference points rather then annomalies such as rich and famous celebs... don't really have to cold approach or put much effort into meeting people if they already know who you are, think you are awesome for making XYZ movie and go approach you

RSD is also a company and they do something called marketing, what is their target audience? men who have trouble fucking girls.... now why would they target the issue of LOOKS DON'T MATTER? hmmm... wounder how this would appeal to a target audience of men who have trouble fucking girls

form your own opinions for christ sakes instead of allowing some company to manipulate you with what you want to hear, open your eyes..., learn to think critically

better yet, just grab some male model pics and go troll and internet dating site, see how hard it is to ''game'' and how little looks matter, you could be an autistic racist and you would still have PLENTY O' FISH trying to fuck you, while the average guy on a dating site won't even get a date after sending out 100s of messages, unless he is hitting up the fattest of the fat girls or the deformed smegal looking girls... seriously, don't flame and make assumptions, see for yourself

game matters, but don't be dillusional, it is not everything, and everything matters, looks are a piece to this puzzle that women find attractive, and you better believe it is a valuable piece, improve yourself from every angle you can

Is he a funny guy?

Everybody knows that one fat guy that uses humor to the fullest advantage. All the girls at the party have to say hello to him, and if you want to meet them, he is the best wingman you could hope for. Very well-connected. You can't hate on him because whether you're a girl or a guy, he is hilarious. Comedic timing is his weapon.

As for his confidence, I'm sure if any woman ever put it past him, "Hey, you should lose some weight and live a healthier life", he handled it like it was an everyday shit test. Hell, he would probably tell her to lose weight.

For every guy like this though, there are 100+ fat guys who carry their extra weight begrudgingly and let it affect their confidence for the worse.

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I disagree with what your saying. Yes, fat guy can get laid, I will agree with that. But here is the thing, these routines are not gonna get you no where. I been gaming for over 2 years. Don't really game no more since I am dating a hottie that I HAVE A LOT IN COMMON WITH (there is a reason why I put those in capital)

Instead of routines, here is what you have to do.

1. Start working out and eat healthy. A fit guy is more attractive then a out of shape fat guy. And exercise will not only make you feel more confident, but it has health benefits.

2. Work on an identity that attract girls. Type 1: Being a fat accountant that sits at home and watches tv all day is not attractive. Type 2: Being a fat accountant, but plays in rock band, and does is own show, attractive. If you see a hot girl dating a fat guy, chances are, he is Type 2.

3. Learn how to game.

Regardless, take an hour out of your day and get some exercise. Obesity can cause serious health issues.

I am good looking guy. It took a solid identity for me to end up with a hottie even with all the knowledge of game and practice. Your fat, step 1 and 2 are crucial for you. Wanna date a hottie? Get ready to completely change your life.

anytime i look at threads about fat guys i start to laugh a little... the first thing i end up seeing is "START DIETING AND WORKING OUT" yeah sure a good diet and exercise is good for you and will eventually make you a more attractive mate, but who really has time for eventually to happen? fat guys ask questions and make threads about fat guy problems because they know that turning that fat into muscle is gonna take a while. so for all you fat guys out there who find it hard to get a little action you should work on your body language. with the right body language even the fat guy can attract a HB. i'm 6'5" but i weigh 300 lbs. i have man boobs and a pudgy stomach, i know what its like to have self esteem issues and not be able to seal the deal with some women. about a year ago i got into a really low point in my life; probably depression, idk i'm not a psychologist or anything. but one day i looked in the mirror and said, "fuck the bullshit, you're fat, get over it." now i didn't just turn my life around at that second. i still would be nervous but then i started hanging out more with a buddy from high school. he was in the marines. he kinda looks like john cena from wwe. i eventually learned how to be a quality wingman. then soon after i would take on solo missions. months later i started reading books on the venusian arts and using what i learned from the books in real life. today i got into the jacuzzi in my apartment building and number closed with a cougar. yes i was shirtless, yes she was hot, and yes she wore a bikini. in my experiences i've come to see that older women care less about weight... try it out. change your body language, be an awesome wingman, or even change your demographic. good luck big man