I understand what they are, but I always ending up mistaking one for a lack of interest. People tell me that if she shows disinterest all of the sudden, it's just a shit test and you should keep pushing your way though and eventually it will work out. It never does, and I end up just making the situation worse and worse. When am I supposed to know when it's a shit test and when i should just walk away?[/i]

I believe that if she shows desinterest, she is not interested. Period.

You can game her, and try to make her interested, but lack of interest is not a shit test.

A shit test, as far as I understand, is something done by the girl, expecting you to have a certain behaviour. She can fake lack of interest, wanting you to go for her. But, in most cases, if you do, you'll look needy, and will fail the test.

How to tell apart lack of interest and a shit test? Well, you'll have to know the girl you're gaming, and judge the situation.

shit tests can be subtle or obvious.

A girl might tell you you look gay or you are ugly (obvious shit test), or suddenly stop talking or stop contributing a lot to the conversation (subtle).

Both will test your confidence, and show to her if really are as awesome and confident as you first impression portrayed.

If shes still looking at you when she goes silent, it's still on.

I have had this a few times. They normally begin going "hmmm" to everything I say, or give one word answers, but they move in closer to me as if trying to make me flinch. I just stare back with intense eye contact, and feel comfortable with the silence until either she breaks the eye contact, or starts talking again. If she breaks the eye contact i'll say something like "wow that was an intense moment".

IF shes showing disinterest overall then its just disinterest.

Shit tests are normally things a girl throws at you verbally to try and knock you off balance or to coax a certain reaction out of you. She is testing you. You pass by being different/handling the situation.

I will give you an example of a shit test I was given one night. Right at the open of a convo, one girl had came down from the upstairs of a popular club. I was walking toward the stairs and we crossed paths in front of the bar. I said, "have you been upstairs" she said, "why? are you stalking me?" I said "you're not hot enough to stalk" Obviously, she was very hot and I wanted her to wonder, was a joking or being serious. She loved my response.

Once at that same place a girl walked up and stood about 5 feet in front of me, over looking the dance floor. It was very sparsely populated at that time b/c it was near closing. I walked up to the rail where she was by herself, and got about arms length away. When I turned to start talking she immediately threw up her hand in my face to keep me away and she looked pissed off. I immediately tried to give her high five. My advice would be turn it in to something funny or bold, but don't get discouraged or let her see you crack or lose confidence.

It's all about how you handle it. It will take several interactions before you get an idea for if it's a shit test or shes really not interested. Women do use them to weed out guys, or see how they react. Personally I think it's a term original PUA salesmen came up with to try to sell more books for the most part b/c their target reader, will most likely never figure it out or learn what is what on shit tests, so you are not alone.

Shit test = Congruency test.

All it's intended to do is to determine if the person is who he/she is really who they present themselves to be.

In other words, it's a woman's way to determine if the man is posing as an alpha when he's really beta.


Typically the less attractive you are to the girl, the more shit tests you'll get.

100% correct.


A shit-test is actually an indicator of interest. She's testing you because she feels attracted and she wants to know if you're congruent with an alpha-male behaviour. When a girl's not interested, she will not shit-test you at all and she'll just ignore you.

There's no such thing as seducing women without shit-test. Being good with women isn't not receiving shit-tests. It's beating the tests and not be affected by them. All the girls that I picked-up shit-tested me in subtle ways or more direct ways. You just have to learn how to deal with it..

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I think the key thing to remember is that ALL women who have some semblance of interest in you will present some form of resistance. Resistance is good, I expect it, I actually look forward to it. Why? I realize its her way of telling me what her boundaries are, and it is a perfect opportunity to demonstrate more value by RESPECTING those boundaries, but then cunningly building more comfort with her only to push on those boundaries again and again (boundaries were made to be broken, and in particular to make her AND particularly YOU feel she wasn't easy). Remember, society has imbued the notion that men are the pursuers, and women are the pursued. In other terms, men are the 'aggressors' and women are the ones who slow our advances down - its all part of the act of seduction. Learn to play this well and the resistance you face will all but melt away. This is the difference between placating facial gestures/stomping your feet when she says 'No" and having a night alone with a bottle of jergans, and having her spread her legs and begging you to f*ck the sh*t out of her.

Look, women get approached far more than men do, and as such for them the game is very, VERY different. For women the issue is not abundance, for them its rather the case of QUANTITY vs. QUALITY.

Put yourself in the average woman's reality for a second. From a tender age you're used to guys approaching you, giving you their 'sales pitch'. You meet nice guys you simply aren't attracted to (time-waisters as I like to call them), and douchebags (often intiallly posing as the 'nice guy' until it becomes evident they want something from you - usually sex, and abruptly fall off the radar soon after getting it), and then there are the guys who they're attracted to but aren't sure which camp he falls into (the boring 'nice guy' or the ahole douchebag). In short, most of the guys who approach you want to TAKE something from you,a nd you are keenly aware of this, most of the time. Consequently women have to rely a lot on their intuition and be able to weed-out the good from the bad; its actually quite a difficult task and requires her to be on guard, PARTICULARLY if she's approached by a guy she's interested in. The 'shit-test'/congruency test is an evolutionary adaptive skill they've adopted to discern the wolf in sheep's clothing, so-to-speak. In other words, it is their way of discerning WHO the guy really is. Is he going to get reactive and/or spiteful in response to her test, or will he simply not react, or do so but in a disarming way so as to demonstrate to her that he's the real McCoy.

The Shit Test is women's way of discerning the the mundane 'nice guy' and the douchebag, and others of that ilk who suffer from self-steem issues from the rest of the pack. That said, the Shit Test is not fool proof as many women do fall more for the latter category, but will typically leave the guy earlier than later, unless of course she suffers from very low self-esteem (e.g., believes her value to be lower than his), in which cause she'll stick around or at least will do so until she can find another dbag who'll take her.