Hey guys. I'm new, but I've been aware of the pua scene. In fact, I used some basic techniques (kino, turning away, time constraints, confidence) to achieve my first girlfriend. She's out of the picture now, so I wanna mingle now.

Now. I get the idea that pick up artists like the thrill of achieving as many women as possible, but I'm not as ambitious. So I wanted to ask this:

I see that a lot of techniques are very particular, but don't know if they are all essential in sarging. Like say negging. Is it necessary for all women, or best reserved for those with "bitch shields" up?

And ultimately, are all these techniques just as effective in more casual situations (friends with potential interest) as they are in clubs? Example - a current plutonic female friend (one of so many) that I may want to... achieve? I know it'll be a little different, but I would figure being dissinterested, kino, and negging would work just the same if you make the situation out to be as if your vying (or should I say they are) for your affection?!?!

Thanks guys!

Hi man:

Talking about the NEG's; Theya re just to remove the bitch shield and to DHV than her or , Lower her value.

An important thing to understand , is that all the routines and techniques are there to be used but in the correct frame, or you can make an adaption of the routine , to fit your purpose or the frame...

You ahve to adapt the routines to yourself , I am a creative guy that likes risks, so I will not run the cube, I might just make a palm reading... etc

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I see. Agreed, I only just want to mingle and to go on dates, so I figure just using basic techniques will get me by.

I'm a lesbian, but even so, when I get negged by someone (regardless of gender) it makes me want to impress them more.

It's probably most affective in breaking down the bitch shield, but even with non-bitch types a little negging here and there (without overdoing it) will make you seem less like a creep. Women are insecure. All of us. Even the ones who seem super confident... but for some reason, we get creeped out when someone shows a lot of interest and tend to run.

I did this to a girl I was initially attracted to. As soon as she started liking me "too much" I freaked out, was no longer attracted, and shut her out. If she had played a bit more and maybe negged a little, I probably would have given her a chance.

If your techniques complement your inner game, then it's good.

Just like anything else, a technique has a time and place. They WORK, you just have to be in the right stage for the right play.

Negging should be used to: tease, raise your value, lower her value, and attract her to yourself
If you feel she has a sense of dominance, or sees that your too easy to get, neg her. Otherwise, use push-pull methods. "hey, your shirt is awesome! where did you get it? my sister would like that style, I think she'd be quite happy if i bought her one."

So if your not convinced yet, get this: IT WORKS!
You just have to know how to use them.

Just like... learning how to drive

Personally I think Mystery's method is best applied in club situations and going straight for getting laid. To me Mystery's Method with the negs and qualifications and IOI's if fun and like a sport. It's not solid when it comes to cultivating long term relationships.

For everything else and when I am looking to build a serious relationship with a woman, I'd much rather want to go with Tyler D's theory as described in Real Social Dynamics. I think it lends itself to having the option to either bed women or build relationships.

That's not to say Mystery's method is not useful in relationships, I just don't think it's a good starting foundation.

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personally, i think that negs are best used for those onetimers. I dont neg girls i want for a gf or anything because negs are like a form of flirting. Just as a personal choice, i dont neg my gf targets, only those girls who i dont want atachments to

You don't need negs when you can give a powerful genuine compliment when you feel it... If she's too high self esteem just treat her as normal and talk to her as you would to your friend not being impressed, that's all you need.

You don't need backturns, that's just acting, at playing the fool. All you need is to be relaxed, and have confidence in what you can offer to a woman .

You don't need DHV'es, you don't need to boast, when you can simpl tell about your wonderful life experiences not to impress her but just because you have a nice life... You do right? if not, go create it!

So not all game is needed at all times, a lot less than what neil strauss has wrote about really is needed to get the girl . It's just seems cooler if it's so mathematical for all the computer fanatics .

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