LOL- Kind of rambled this is a fun conversation.
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Yes the paradox is true, not worrying about getting laid projects all the right vibes. It is natural to some extent but you can't tell that to a 40 year old virgin (maybe you could argue he has been swallowing his natural tendencies and behaviors all this time). The whole getting laid is natural, will help guys you are reasonable well adjusted already (the majority but not the majority in the community though).
You are correct I would argue that he was holding back his own natural tendencies the whole time. He felt like trying with how many girls? He felt like they wanted him how many times? How many times did he not make him a natural presentable mate because he didn't value himself? His natural instinct is to become a good mate to maintain his genetic line.
The whole getting laid is natural will also help people with moral hang ups who were influenced by a conservative family. I was one of those guys. A lot of people are given moral hang ups over sex as well, in fact I'd say more people feel it is wrong that they realize. They can't talk to a woman because "your intentions are wrong".
I do understand your point on how some guys have issues with social skills, anxiety, body language, etc. However part of self-confidence is detaching yourself from events so that your value is independent of everyone else opinion of you, this to me is part of the process. Getting good at being you means making your value of yourself not about just getting laid. It is a good point and it should be noted that the foundation of "Game" is confidence and thus this is an essential step in your development. Detaching from sex is a part of being happy and actually enjoying sex rather than enjoying saying I had sex for approval.
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Saying seduction is easy helps no one.
This my philosophy:
Saying Seduction is easy is the truth, the truth is often simpler than people realize. I'm trying to simplify it to make it attainable for everyone, because it is. Seduction is more about being a natural instinctual biological "you", and being confident in that "you" than it is about learning all these different routines. Seduction is doing less not more, it's a common misconception that you need to say this or that to "Demonstrate High Value", you just need to BE high value. It's all about physical escalation in response to her showing her attraction.
It's about you knowing you'll fuck her, it's about showing her how definitive your mind and actions really are. This doesn't start at the start of the interaction, this starts with you and your feelings about yourself. She'll believe in your opinion of yourself because it is the only opinion she has of you. A woman finds an arrogant man high value because he believes himself to be high value and that is a rare trait, she simply agrees in his unwarranted high value of himself (often confused with confidence).
Seduction is very easy, it is being a confident you at all times that is very hard. Being that confident you when you go to kiss the girl is difficult. Being confident in your actions because of your confidence in yourself, yes this takes experiences but it also takes you gaining true core confidence. A good example is if you are still worried about rejection, where as a confident you doesn't worry about her approval of you, rejection changes nothing in regards to your feelings about yourself. Seduction really is easy, it's easy to kiss a girl, or grab her hips or make eye contact, none of it is hard.
Make no mistake the root of seduction isn't verbal it is nonverbal. You can use words to help in the seduction process, I've even written an article on it, but the true core of it is instinct and primal nonverbal lust always trump words. It is theorized that 93% of the message has nothing to do with the words spoken, meaning how you say it matters far more than what you said.
Your opinion of yourself, your doubt of yourself in seducing is the real snag. How hard is it to learn to touch someone? How hard is it to talk to someone? It's not hard at at all, we are always learning. Seduction is very simple and thus easy.
Seduction is easy, confidence in seduction and yourself is hard.
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My opinion is keeping a woman is so much more difficult then fucking one it is ridiculous.
This is where we differ my friend, my experience is after I have slept with a women it is easy to keep them, if i desire so. I am not necessarily saying seduction is hard here, though I undeniable find it harder than the former.
Peace and love, indeed.
This to me seems to show you have confidence. When you have confidence in yourself and that ability with that woman you are confident any woman would be happy with you.
On the other hand a lot of guys come on here and look to get confident interacting with a woman, not confident in being themselves. They learn to seduce a woman through deceiving themselves about their own value. If you just go out and gain that value then you don't have to "build value" or use DHVs. You are just high value, it can be seen by looking at you and your behavior.
Keeping a hot girl is about valuing yourself at the same level, if you think she is more "valuable" than you then you will always have emotional turmoil in you. You seem to have that part down, so being in a relationship is easy because you are comfortable with you and your value compared with anyone else. On the other hand you don't sound as confident in your abilities to approach women, which can have it's difficulties no doubt.
Just some crazy thoughts and philosophies that came out. I've just noticed every time I get laid it's easy. Every time I don't get laid I made it hard, I brought in emotions, doubt, etc.
Peace and Love,
Vic
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