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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:12 am 
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3 weeks ago a friend (girl) from my class introduced me to another girl from my school, i have known who she was before, and the other way around, however we have never talket...
So we get introduced at a bar and start talking a little bit, at this point i am not really into her so i am not very flirtatious.
But when we say goodbye i kinda get the feeling that she is trying to flirt with me, and i pick up on that, and start getting interested.
one week later, i met with both girls again, and this time i am flirting much more with her, it is going good and we are talking alot.
after that night we start writing on facebook a lot! and start joking around (like getting mad at each other when not answering, joking with us being dependent on each other)
So yesterday i go out on a bar with the same type of people, and this time i really want her, so we hold in hand and flirt a lot, talk a lot and so on. i follow her and her friends home, han hug her goodbye, but she is kinda joking like she dosen't want to hug me, so i just say goodbye and leave. when i get home she text me saying that i should have given her a better goodbye (as if she wanted me to kiss her goodbye)
today i met with her in city this time without the friend in common, she is with her friends and i am with mine. we hold hand again, but when i try to go for the kiss she kinda rejects me, though i did not go 100% in for it...
now there is some kinda importent facts, she broke up with her boyfriend 3 weeks ago, but she felt like they have been broken up for like 2 months and she is not sure if she has ever loved him. she knows my ex girlfriend (broke up 4 months ago) and today we were at a bar where my ex also were, and so the girl i am trying to get asks me if i still hate her, and i say no, she asks me if i am trying to get her jealous and i say no, and then she starts talking about that she believes: if you hate a person, it means that you still love that person.

my friend talked to her earlier because he wanted to get to know her, and she told me that he asked her if i just was a rebound from her ex, and she then told me that she answered no (at first i was glad, but then i thought that it might just mean that she wasn't planning on anything to happen with me) she then told him that she thinks i am sweet. she has also said to me that she dosent want to waste her time at some boy. And that she wants a boy who is intellectual, where after she said that i surprised her at how intellectual i am.
beside all this, she seems scared that i am hitting on her, which made me scared that she just wanted me in the friendzone ..

Any thoughts on this?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:13 am 
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bang her


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:52 pm 
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maybe an more insightful comment would be nice..

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:56 pm 
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"bang her" is actually pretty spot on for advice. Stop treating her like she's some innocent flower of purity, she likes you, she's a sexual human being like you are. However she's a girl, she doesn't wanna come off like a slut and she wants you to take the lead and give her what she wants.
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but she is kinda joking like she dosen't want to hug me, so i just say goodbye and leave
Like right here. You completely failed her shit test, lucky you that she's SO interested she actually came out and TOLD you that you failed it and gave you a 2nd chance. You probably could have slept with her this night.

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but when i try to go for the kiss she kinda rejects me, though i did not go 100% in for it...
Why not? And why not try again later? And did you build up to it with enough sexual tension and seduction or did you just kinda cold kiss her relying on what happened the previous day to get you compliance? Because that's a common mistake, the flirtations of the previous day don't carry over. Just because you could have kissed her last time doesn't mean you can just start at that point right off the bat this time.
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now there is some kinda importent facts,
All irrelevant. If she likes you and your game was good you'd have had her already. But at least your answers were decent, you didn't destroy yourself.
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she then told him that she thinks i am sweet. she has also said to me that she dosent want to waste her time at some boy.
Exactly, she wants a man who goes after what he wants. Persistence is attractive. So is confidence. You showed neither. She "jokes that she doesn't wanna be hugged" so you shrug and walk away. You give up at the merest hint of resistance and you escalate at the speed of a slow turtle. You need to stop listening to her words and listen to her body instead. Is she still close to you? Touching you? Then who cares what she says, she obviously does wanna be hugged/kissed. If she pulls away once then wait a bit and try again.

You basically build a lot of rapport and connection and ran away or gave up when it was time to build sexuality. She didn't want you in the friend zone to begin with but you seem to be running head first for it. Stop that.

Now don't misunderstand this advice to mean that you should do a 180 and change into some super aggressive-not-yourself guy who will scare her off. Just be a bit more of a man and go for what you want. Get it on and stop being scared off at the tiniest whispers of resistance. Escalate physically in small increments until you hit resistance then slow down for a min and and try again until it works. Persistence and escalation.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:01 am 
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"bang her" is actually pretty spot on for advice. Stop treating her like she's some innocent flower of purity, she likes you, she's a sexual human being like you are. However she's a girl, she doesn't wanna come off like a slut and she wants you to take the lead and give her what she wants.
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but she is kinda joking like she dosen't want to hug me, so i just say goodbye and leave
Like right here. You completely failed her shit test, lucky you that she's SO interested she actually came out and TOLD you that you failed it and gave you a 2nd chance. You probably could have slept with her this night.

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but when i try to go for the kiss she kinda rejects me, though i did not go 100% in for it...
Why not? And why not try again later? And did you build up to it with enough sexual tension and seduction or did you just kinda cold kiss her relying on what happened the previous day to get you compliance? Because that's a common mistake, the flirtations of the previous day don't carry over. Just because you could have kissed her last time doesn't mean you can just start at that point right off the bat this time.
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now there is some kinda importent facts,
All irrelevant. If she likes you and your game was good you'd have had her already. But at least your answers were decent, you didn't destroy yourself.
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she then told him that she thinks i am sweet. she has also said to me that she dosent want to waste her time at some boy.
Exactly, she wants a man who goes after what he wants. Persistence is attractive. So is confidence. You showed neither. She "jokes that she doesn't wanna be hugged" so you shrug and walk away. You give up at the merest hint of resistance and you escalate at the speed of a slow turtle. You need to stop listening to her words and listen to her body instead. Is she still close to you? Touching you? Then who cares what she says, she obviously does wanna be hugged/kissed. If she pulls away once then wait a bit and try again.

You basically build a lot of rapport and connection and ran away or gave up when it was time to build sexuality. She didn't want you in the friend zone to begin with but you seem to be running head first for it. Stop that.

Now don't misunderstand this advice to mean that you should do a 180 and change into some super aggressive-not-yourself guy who will scare her off. Just be a bit more of a man and go for what you want. Get it on and stop being scared off at the tiniest whispers of resistance. Escalate physically in small increments until you hit resistance then slow down for a min and and try again until it works. Persistence and escalation.
Thanks man you really gave me some stuff to think about.
the thing with escalating is that i normally would escalate real hard, but because of i am thinking long term with this one makes it hard to go all in because i don't want to loose her. i have been escalating a bit like the hand holding and taking her close to me, however when she turned her head as i was about to kiss her made me think that i might be escalating to fast. i talked to her before i started really escalating about some dude hitting on her. She talked about how she didn't want to move to fast since she broke up with her boyfriend for only 3 weeks ago. these to facts combined made me think i was escalating to fast.

what i have learned from all this is that i need to isolate her more, make sure nobody is watching and from there on i will try to create sexual tension.
Thanks again! :)

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