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Yes it is.
We'll agree to disagree then. :)
Fine. Go bump and grind on random girls and see how far that gets you.
It's funny that someone with the nick name "I want Easy Love" argues with us when we tell him that no talking is required.

Do you understand that in a girl's mind dancing flirtation time equals conversation time? And that I've banged 7 girls in the last 10 nights I was out, with mostly talking with them only in the way to my hotel? Please.... the adults are trying to have a conversation here.

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I will give up a "makeout with a 9", eject, and will go find another girl - AND THAT'S WHAT GETS ME LAID EVERY FUCKING NIGHT.
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I pulled twice in the last two nights... it makes 6 girls in 9 nights.
Funny thing Phangan, you say you get laid every f*cking night. And yet in the 2nd line you say: 6 girls in 9 nights. Shouldn't it be at least 9 girls in 9 nights?
Ok man, sorry, you're right. 7 girls in 10, that makes ALMOST every night. Thanks for being a dick.

And those other nights, in 2 of them I ended in a girls apartment but got LMR and a roomate that entered the place in a very bad timing.

I went back home really empty ended only once, and then too, I was with this girl outside of the club, after hardcore makeouts and about an hour together, telling me "please meet me here tomorrow, please come tomorrow...." I THINK she was on her period (now you'll think I'm mad but I think I could smell it) or she was one of those "never sleeps with a guy in the first night girls" - which yea, would be lack of calibration from my part.

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Adults? You have your fingers over your ears like a child. Adults, smh.

1.) You live in a hotel. A hotel. Sounds like you're at some vacation locale where people go to hook up. This just does not happen consistenly on college campuses or in regular cities.

2.) Ask about the name before you make an ignorant comment. Greatness is doing the most difficult things in the world with the simplest of ease. if I want easy love that means that I want to be great and that I want to work hard. The problem of this method is that its appealing to laziness and I use the world a "fools fantasy" because that's exactly what Mystery called it in the Mystery Method, but don't listen to mystery...do what you want to do.


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IN ANY CASE - if she doesn't let me kiss her within 10 minutes - I WILL EJECT and look for the next girl. (THIS IS THE KEY RIGHT HERE)

If she lets me kiss her, then I'll stay and escalate further.

If she doesn't let me put my hands on her ass within 20 minutes - I WILL EJECT.

If she doesn't let me put my hands on her tits and rub her nipples within 30 minutes - I WILL EJECT.
This is in the book and videos explain with examples and troubleshooting...
No man, it is not. And none of the other things that I talk about. (I just checked your home page) are there either, not in the way I express them. You THINK it is there, but it's not.

Only someone who is doing what we are doing and reading your stuff will understand why it's not actually there. A newbie won't see it, which is why I still recommend people to read your book. It's better than nothing.

Dude I don't want to diss you, this is not an insult, but you are trying to teach non verbal seduction / communication and you need a very rich and expressive language to do it.

You need a deep understanding of all these abstract non verbal communication ideas and then expressing them in a way that they will be clear to others. It's about the depth of expression.

I'm telling you, it's just not there. And it's not an insult because English is not your first language.

For example WHERE do you express the idea that dancing flirtation time equals conversation time? That flirting = emotions and that taking the girls thru many different emotions (which you don't talk about!!!!) equals getting to know each other? My explanations expresses this accurately, you don't talk about this at all.

You don't talk at ALL about the flirtation part, for you all dancing equals flirtation - which is BULLSHIT. There is regular dancing, and there is FLIRTING, where do you make this distinction?

Again, you might THINK that you do, but you don't. You simply don't have the richness of language to express it (or even understand it) even that YOU THINK that you do.

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Please show me where you write to EJECT on a girl who is kissing you. Tell me page number. Or tell me a page number or forever shut up, because ejecting on a girl, even if she is kissing you, is the heart of my whole method.

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Now another thing: the only coincidence is that now after so many months I travel alone again and could work on my dance floor game the way I do. So suddenly it all came together. Also I was in Bucharest two months ago, in the city center, alone, where there are maybe 25 clubs and bars. It was the first night I went it and out in and out of many 15 bars, and rotated them, dancing with girls and ejected if they were not DTF. It was before I read your book (was it even out then?) and you KNOW that I hardly checked this forum in almost a year. Dude I only read your posts when you reply to me, I don't read the conversations you have with others.

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One last thing - I already developed my method further than the original post, it's already more evolved. I again pulled last night and I realized that what is even more important than the DTF signs is the fact that the girl can dance for a long period of time and that she doesn't only dance but can "flirt dance".

(I know Skills will disagree with me, I will get to it in a second)

A girl who is DTF but cannot dance - is hardly any good for me. (she is good for YOU Skills, not for me, again I will explain why is a second)

When I go into a venue I need to first look for the girls who are good enough dancers that they can sustain this "dancing flirtation" / dance-off with me for at least 30 minutes and optimally 90-120 minutes.

Because dance time = connection time, and if the girl is DTF but can't dance for shit, or has low energy, I won't have enough time to connect with her and escalate enough so she would let me pull her to the room that night.

It's not only about dance skill and stamina - she needs to be a girl who "gets it" and with who I can "dance flirt with" - or it won't work.

You can see this in the girls body movement and dancing so I will now open them regardless if I get an IOI from them, because they are the best prospects.

So NOW (updated system) I'll scan first not for DTF, but for "flirt dancing skills" / stamina, will look for such girls and will open them first.

They are also the girls who will respond to my dancing best because they can recognize me as a good dancer / guy they can connect with instantly.

So we will start to dance and THEN I'll look for the IOI and DTF signs. Then eject if needed.

Again - if a girl is DTF, but can't dance, she's not a good prospect for me because I won't be able to have a two hours dance-off / flirting non verbal conversation with her.

You MUST understand that there are TWO types of dance - regular dance and "flirting dance" - I posted a video on the other thread you can SEE what "flirting dance" is. It's totally different than regular dance. You need a girl who can flirt - not a girl who can just dance. Again - this is needed for SNL - because you need that "flirt dance" time to count as "conversation and connection time"

(complex theoretical ideas - I know - but grasp this and you'll be a dance-floor god)

So my upgraded method is -

1) Scan venue for best dancers (stamina / flirt dancing) - approach them first.
2) Start dancing with them - look for IOI and DTF signs. If not there - eject.
3) If IOI and DTF signs are there - proceed.

If I can't find in a venue such dancers - girls who I think can dance for two hours - I will then look for the girls who just like me and will proceed as original post.

NOW WHY SKILLS WON'T AGREE WITH ME -

Because:

1) for you it won't matter that they are not good dancers, because you don't grasp the flirtation aspect deeply enough. This will go above your head I think.

2) Because your system is not geared so strongly for SNL, but generally for getting numbers and hooking up. You don't understand that for a SNL - you need this other level of communication, so you don't care for it as I do.

3) You will claim that you SNLed girls who could not dance for shit, and I believe you, but you've been doing this for 20 years so you probably did everything.

4) If you just dance with a girl, not "flirt dance" - you can still get her number and convert her. NO PROBLEM. That's what YOU do and it's OK. But again, not good for SNL.

IT IS POSSIBLE probably to pull a SNL with girl who can't flirt-dance - but it will be high risk and much more work.

Skills, what I'm saying is - if you want to increase the chance for a SNL - you should find girls you can dance with for at least 30-120 minutes. The long time spent together dancing will increase the chance that she'll be DTF that night, not some other time.

Now I eject so quickly on girls, that I think I danced just a total of 5 minutes last night before finding the right girl who fucked me. I literally need 10 seconds with a girl to know if it will work or not.

If she likes me + she can dance flirt - 80% I will fuck her that night. It's that simple and I can recognize these two factors within seconds.

That's it. Another proof that I didn't steal anything from you. And who knows how far I'm going to take this, every day I discover new things.

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Adults? You have your fingers over your ears like a child. Adults, smh.

1.) You live in a hotel. A hotel. Sounds like you're at some vacation locale where people go to hook up. This just does not happen consistenly on college campuses or in regular cities.

2.) Ask about the name before you make an ignorant comment. Greatness is doing the most difficult things in the world with the simplest of ease. if I want easy love that means that I want to be great and that I want to work hard. The problem of this method is that its appealing to laziness and I use the world a "fools fantasy" because that's exactly what Mystery called it in the Mystery Method, but don't listen to mystery...do what you want to do.
Dude, you don't know me. I do day game, I do bar game... but this is my favorite style because it's fun and fast.

I pulled it off in other places too (London, for example) and it will work anywhere. You just need 2-3 venues or one mega venue so you have material to work with and then not too bad logistics, you just need a car and a place to take the girl to. For me it's easy because where I'm at there are parties every night, but you can pull it off in any large city and every weekend.

About "fools mate" - this is wrong. These girls, who you fucked after 2 hours of knowing them, will adore you. You can then turn them into girlfriends and they will forever respect you because they know that you can always go and find someone else. This is newbie talk.

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This is not game.

Dancing with someone then trying to hook up is so common, so common. I think its going on in every frat house, on every weekend. This is not game.

The fact that you said you have to go to 2 or 3 large venues shows how much this is dependent upon luck, not skill but luck.

If you getting laid and you happy well I'm not hating, but for other guys to follow this blindly...I think thats just not right.

Then you probably only hooking up with HB7s at best with this. I don't see dimes being that easy usually.


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This is not game.

Dancing with someone then trying to hook up is so common, so common. I think its going on in every frat house, on every weekend. This is not game.

The fact that you said you have to go to 2 or 3 large venues shows how much this is dependent upon luck, not skill but luck.

If you getting laid and you happy well I'm not hating, but for other guys to follow this blindly...I think thats just not right.

Then you probably only hooking up with HB7s at best with this. I don't see dimes being that easy usually.
Yes. Everybody knows that you can just go out to a party and find a girl to bang, 3 nights straight, because it's very easy and no game required.

You're delusional.

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You're delusional.

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You're delusional.

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Dude, if everybody was able to pull it off, and no game was required, there would be no "dating industry" because everybody would be doing it all the time.

And you're talking with someone who doesn't do online game, and doesn't do text game, because, like you, I'd like to develop real skill. You can read a whole thread I started called "text game is for pussies".

If you'd check my blog you could read about dozens of day game and regular bar, street game pulls, you just don't know who you're talking to.

There is a shitload of method in what I'm doing here. I used to just go to clubs and open girls and sometime pull, sometimes not, now it's a whole different level because there is a whole method + execution involved. I think you have no idea what you're talking about, you just say things out of your ass.

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oh and I PM you a photo of me and a girl I pulled doing this two weeks ago, you tell me if she's a 7.

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oh and I PM you a photo of me and a girl I pulled doing this two weeks ago, you tell me if she's a 7.
Relax son. Proving yourself to me? You sounding hella insecure right now. Relax.


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Yea, more like a 9. Thought so.

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