On the bus heading home for the weekend from college. I spent the first hour of the journey talking to two Dublin girls. Using everything I had on them, bad mouthing their college, negs, qualifiers, flat out bragging. What's that called? Jerk funny? Anyway that doesn't matter, what does matter is that I had them around my little finger but with absolutely nothing to gain. Sex? Nope. Kiss? Nope. A number at least? No point. I live hours away from both of them, at home and in college. Why bother so? Well why not. This is why I do this shit and write in this forum not because I have to or need to but because I enjoy it. I enjoy talking to girls, I enjoy the thrill of doing something I would have been incapable of only a year ago..

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mostly because we´re all insecure fucks that didnt´t learned that alone in the early years and now we´re catching up with time.

btw, in time we all get tired of shooting everywhere and start focusing in girls we want, or just times just for fun. but never "because it had to be done".

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Because we are nothing but losers of our society, who can't get pussy in thier life, not even in the hard way, while others are having it day after day after day. Also, we losers don't have any real ambitions, passions, or "life" that we want to pursue. Not only that, we are also socially inept, live awkward lives and want one day a woman will like us for who we are, but contrary to social conditioning, we should realize that should never happen. Most guys here cuz they want to get a special girl, or get a gf, while others are here to lose their virginity or to fulfill thier life having sex with the hottest girls on the planet. Others come here cuz they were never "taught" how to get a girlfriend, or are too wussy to talk to women. But, whatever the reason we are here for, everything boils down to one thing: "WE ARE FUCKING UNHAPPY AND UNSATISFIED WITH OUR SINGLE LIFE," that we need validation from other men and women together to make us happy.

If all of our life would be so fulfilled, then we wouldn't be chasing skirts day after day after day, and coming home moonfaced, why we couldn't get a fucking number, while in reality a number means nothing. When we ask a girl out to meet later during the day and she denies it, we feel like shit. We don't even know it, but we are all nothing but morons who unsatisfied with their life. While our sex drive makes us horny, we can easily do it by getting on craigslist, hire an escort service, or attend a local swingers party, but we are too "classy" to do that sort of stuff. "Sex should be free" becomes our new motto and we hunt chicks like vampires one after the other.

When we see two people passionately kiss in public and they hold hand, and we look around us, and see the empty seat next to us, no one to hold ours, no one to press their lips against ours, and you can forget about the other things, I would mention. Then we end up here in these forums trying to see which tactic, which statement, would work on this girl, or that girl to get laid, cuz its not that we are fucked up cuz we aren't getting laid, not having gfs, we are fucked up cuz our society fucked up already, ever since the time of our birth. If only we were born as other mammals instead of homo sapiens, then sex would've been so easy woundn't it be?

So, all the negs, teasing and what not will not work during our daytime. I have personally tried it with several girls, and I got hte same reaction, a couple of laughs and then leaving after our interaction was over. My advice is this: "Play the numbers game, do direct during the day, and whichever girl sticks, sticks. And then find a passion, have a vision that can make you happy. And last of all, stop comparing yourself with others, why did this guy has a gf and I dont? I don't know why, you dont know why. And honestly, thinking about that wont get you girls. Just assume you will get girls in your life and live your life as a single man.

Well in a sense most of the guys on this forum joined because they had too. Most guys (including old AFC me) can't get themselves laid, so in an attempt to offset their permanent horniness they join this site and learn what they can in the slim chance it might help. My point was that you can get to a stage where you aren't under pressure when talking to girls.

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Because we are winners.


We take one aspect of our live we don't like, we acknowledge it and we work on improving it.


That alone puts us above and beyond 99% of people.

Our society is being built more and more around the idea of consumers who don't do nothing all day long except work, watch tv and buy products. We are mindless machines who are constantly advertised how our life's problems (sex, power, success) will be solved by consuming products.

To break away from that mold and to undertake this path takes courage, maturity, honesty and self-discovery, and it's not an easy one.

Wrong! aren't an not winners. If we were, then we woudn't be here on this forum sitting behind the computers and asking for help. We are FUCKED by media and social conditioning.I don't know how long you are in pickup, but you will soon realize this.

I think I agree with AFC_datik here.

I reckon that 1% of the male population are naturals who have no need for help. 98% of guys don't live up to there potential and want to be naturals but are too proud or scared to ask for help. We are the last 1% who want to be naturals, but do something about it!

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Well you are right about one thing and wrong about everything else.


1. You are right that social conditioning fucks with our brains. Our current society is very unhealthy for people brains and psychology and that's why things like depression, anxiety and other mental deseases are currently rampant throughtout! Society sometimes impulses this huge standards on us and tells us: "hey, if you don't have money, and the best car, and the HB10 in your arm then you are worth nothing, so buy more stuff so you can have this". It's fucked up because a lot of people buy into that.


2. Also you may be right to say that if you think that you are a loser, then you most likely are one.


3. Now, you are considerably wrong when you think that people are losers for asking for help. ITS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. Asking for help is acknowledging a problem, which is something most people never do out of pride or most likely because they just want to stay in their comfort zone.


4. You have a really fucked up notion if you think that winners are people who don't need help or who don't face problems. Fuck man, EVERYONE ON THIS LIFE HAS ISSUES. Everyone falls down on their knees! Even naturals who can get babes will face issues when confronted with other parts of life (and believe me that not everything comes down to women). The only thing that defines losers is taking it, accepting your fate, and not trying to stand up.

In fact you are doing that right now, by categorizing yourself as a loser, you are acting like that you are defined as such, as if you were destined to it, and can't change it.


5. A winner is just someone who is able to accept their lives, be cool with who they are, accepting their problems, and most importantly, taking an ACTIVE way to face their problems, define their own values and set the course for their own lives. While being a loser is just defined by taking it, making excuses


6. And ironically this is just what pick-up teaches, because this is what makes a man attractive (and a woman too). I think that inner game is the most important thing to get ladies, but even if you don't here actively looking for that and just want some openners and fancy routines, even then you are working on yourself because you are a) acknowleding a problem, b) working to fix it, c) developing confidence and courage along the way.


7. Man do you really think that if say 1% of men come to get advice on pick-up, that the rest 99% are naturals who can get whatever ladies they want. I mean, sure, some people are, but what % do you truly think that is. Most likely some men will have some success with women, and they are so afraid they will be alone that they will just settle for whatever they get and get a long-term relationship right away. Having long term relationship its fine if you are into that, hell it's probably even more satisfying than just having casual sex, but if you choose it! A lot of folk just accept that its too hard to work on your social skills, they are afraid to be alone, so they stay in their comfort zones and settle for whoever they got lucky with, while secretly wishing they could have a life where they knew how to seduce women and having multiple casual relationships with HB's, or wondering if they could get this HB which is even hotter and more interesting than their current lover.

Why the fuck do you think that divorce is so high throughout?



TL;DR: Being a winner or a loser isn't defined by measuring what you have with an objective stick. Being a winner is being ok with who you are, accepting your own problems and being active about fixing what you don't like. Being a loser/chump/AFC is just accepting your own fate, settling for what you have while secretly wanting more, and not being willing to get out of your comfort zone to improve yourself


Peace

keep at it guys.

It will come to you over time.

Ive finished working on my pickup skills, and have moved onto finance. Thats the area of my life that needs focus now!!

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I'ma be what I set out to be, without a doubt undoubtedly, and all those who look down on me I'm tearin down your balcony, no if ands or buts, don't try to ask him why or how can he

in a journey is not important where do we began or where we´ll finish, but the adventure.

ok, so we all started as "social challenged" people, in time we all acquired skills to make us have some game.

the only concern I always had, and fucked me up, with pua methods/skills is that if over used makes us less human. almost social robots focused on getting laid.

that´s my statement against things I use to believe. PUA techniques are TOOLS, only tools.

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Carioca Style.

Did you know that the suicide rate is ten times higher in the west than in the 3rd world? Can you believe that there is a dude somewhere squatting naked in a ditch, making mud pies for dinner who is in fact happier than you?

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You are right man, actually RSD touchs on that very fact in Blueprint: Decoded. I seriously can't recomend it enough.

But yeah, in the end I suppose that it depends how you end up using most of this stuff. Some people will just come here, get an opener and be done with it, while others may use all this information to really improve the way they look at life.

That's me. I do alright with girls. I think I could probably survive without this forum but I come here everyday simply to become better, to improve my lot in life and the way I look at it. I share my triumphs and disappointments with all of you none only in the hope that it will help me but that it will help you too.

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Totally agree. As Mystery said, "Let the Venusian Arts enrich your life, not define it."

Its easy to get laid on Craigslist?