Hey guys,
So guys there is this routine/opener called Apocalypse Opener:
http://www.pualingo.com/openers/apocalypse-opener/

The main idea is saying something like following asap :
“Do you want to come home with me?”

So I thought It needs ball to say something like that. But last weekend since I didn't get any result I wanted to give it a shot.I didn't expect anything but getting slapped or something like that but surprisingly I didn't get any bad reaction at all.
So I used it on 5 different hbs.The surprising part was that the better the hb was,the reaction was better. It was an eye opener.
So generally after telling the main part, these are the reactions:
HB: No , I am not that kind of girl ( hb 6- the worst reaction I got)
HB: No (Smiling/laughing and looking at me and my reaction, I got this reaction mostly. I don't know how to proceed it.)
So the best response I got was the last hb who was hb 9. She was tall with great body and she was surrounded by 2 guys who definitely wanted to fuck her later.So basically I tried to steal her.After short introduction:
Me: I think you are sexy and you turn me on. Do you want to come home with me?
HB(9): I don't know (with huge smile while keep checking me)

So the other 2 guys realized I am trying to steal her and one of them tried to get her attention and dropping my conversation. He did it and what I said was:
ME : hey XXX, look at me .
So she turned her head again and I had a deep eye contact with her. So the other guy did something which I think was smart and he just shout said "hey!!" I think she got scared of him turned around and left the bar with her hands in guys hands.lol

So I want to know your opinion and I want to know how you would proceed these situations.I think this method would be great since it's direct and save you alot of time and energy.
I am looking forward for your answers guys!

Hey mate!!

first of all, if you really went direct, i congratz you! I like direct game and appreciate people who have the guts to do so . You got my respect.

Now, on topic. You get smiles and looks, it feels nice doesnt it? But check this out: instead of asking if she wants to go home with you, tell her you want her to come home with you. Or tell her you want to have sex with her, either tonight or later this week, doesnt matter.

the point is: make statements about what you want, lead. A no is only a no if she walks away. So, suppose she gives you the 'i dont know' but keeps on smiling and checking you out, just ocntinue feeding her x-rated material. Tell her what you like to do with her. Tell her you understand that deep inside she craves for wild sex, she wants to be fucked by a man who knows she wants. Make her crazy. Tell her you ask her now, only tonight. eventually, tell her it is now or never. If she doenst react, walk away. Yes, you have to stick to your guns here.

Also, lead her, take her with you, gently ofcourse. take her to the bar, then to the lounge, then to the exit, whatever. Lead. if she doesnt want to follow, she will make it very clear. THen ofcourse you stop.

This will not guarantee success, but she will give more clarity . there will be lesser times where you will walk home wondering what it is she actually wanted.

Also, dont tell her in the wide open so that everybody can hear you. If you are doing night game and lots of people are around, she will be more inclined to turn you down.

I hope it was a bit clear, as some things might be fuzzy or chaotic. But it comes down to this:

Tell her instead of asking.

If she doesnt react, feed her x-rated stuff, but dont shout it for the entire neighbourhood.

Lead her. Take her around.

Also, one thing you can do is leave your phone number. Tell her: when you do know, call me and we meet up. Dont forget to exchange names, so you know who is calling. Keep in mind that this is not a technique, just getting the most out of it .

If you got more questions, shoot!

cheers and good luck!

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"Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate" - CaptainJackHarkness

Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

Thanks buddy for your help.
I like the lead part but I hope I don't get slapped. It's kinda hard especially talking about what I want to do with her especially when I don't know what she is really looking for ...
Having a plan for each response would be great.So I am looking for good reactions based on hb's response.

About hb9 it was a loud bar/club and I told everything in her ear and nobody realized what I was telling her except her. She was definitely DTF and that was my first experience like this and I didn't expect a reaction like that from her (was shocked lol ) and as a result not ready for proper action(which I still don't know what was the best thing I could do lol !).

Hey mate, np.

You have balls enough to ask her out of the blue to come home with you, but then you would take a step back and grow a vagina ?
It is true that you dont know what she is looking for, so you are there to find out. You have to stick with your desire. You dont need to 'memorize' witty comebacks or something. Stay with what you want and you will pass any shit test/response she opposes you. Stick with it until you get a clear no or she walks away or both .

What reactions, besides slapping and pouring her drink all over you do you expect? I never got slapped and no women ever spilled her drink on me because of what i said. But ofcourse, you need to calibrate. You need to be persistent but dont push it. Look at her response. You will immediatly know if she likes it or not. if she doesnt like it at all, dont be persistent.
In this case, i would have gone through with it. Dont expect her to take the initiative. She expects you to take it. You make clear what you want, and then you are waiting for her to make her move? Lead .

One more thing about having a response in your head: it will make you more nervous, because all of a sudden, you might end up in a situation you dont have a predefined response to. Or you will try very hard to remember what to do and you will lose all that is genuine in the interaction.

Just saying, do whatever you feel best with.

cheers and good luck!

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"Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate" - CaptainJackHarkness

Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

you have balls my friend, and balls is good.

Ld literally nailed it, but there are two important things you should take from what he said.
asking her makes you sound less alpha, and you dont wont to be asking her any questions when you've opened her by telling her to come home with you.

Leading is very important, she doesn't want to feel like a slut, so you leading will make her feel like 'it wasn't my idea/fault'. It will help you lead her straight to the bedroom, too.

When she responds to you, you can get a straight negative response of a no or a positive response. From the positive response she will either be in shock or be happy (smiling and stuff). From the shock, you should just leave her, and tell her you'll be back in 5 and tell her to make up her mind then. From her being happy, you should escalate fast, pulling her in and telling her to leave with you now.

The response will develop overtime, learning what to do and what not to do, it's all practice.

Stelar was a guy that mastered this, here are a few of his LR's

10-minute-pull-on-milf-vt130988.html

my-last-lay-report-vt131303.html

apple-ass-asking-for-it-vt130992.html

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I do know 1 thing though, bitches they come they go

As it says in my sig, "lets get out of here" put out your hand, take hers and start walking towards the exit. She doesn't even have time to react, you both know you want it so this way she can explain it off as a spur of the moment thing instead of a conversation. Once your outside escalate until your hands are down her pants, flag a taxi and go to whoever s house you want.

BANG



Body

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"Lets get out of here..."

So, you weren't worried that one of the two guys was her boyfriend? That could have been extremely awkward

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"Those who push themselves and are willing to face pain, exhaustion, humiliation, rejection or worse are the ones who become champions" -Style

Nice routine!!! Respect.

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So guys , I used this routine again.
It only interesting case was a hb 8 with nice sexy body sitting next to hb 5 black chick.So after using the routine, she was so shocked that she was speechless and couldn't breath. I am not kidding It was funny. I could see tear in her eyes and her eyes get wet I hope you get how her feeling was.
So I was like :
Me: Are you ok?
HB: yeah I am fine (while putting her hand on her mouth ,tear in her eyes since she was shocked and smiling )
Me: it's your fault.
HB:why?
ME:you really turns me on.

Any way, I didn't do great after that and I left. The problem is that she was with her friend But now when I am thinking I can say she was looking for someone since they were not talking to each other too much and it was a sign in club.
But since I was alone ( I sarge alone) it's kind a hard to be successful. I think there are 3 main factors for being successful in this routine:
1- you should be good looking.( My look is ok but I try to be stylish)
2- you should have social value(if you sarge alone like me I think it's hard) Also when you leave usually the chick tells her friend and since I sarge alone if they see you again( which happened for me) you look creepy for them this time.
3- you should really believe it works , most of the time hb would say no but some of them like the chick I am talking about are DTF.If I knew how to proceed I could've got her. I think I am shocked more than the hb when I see it's working so I'd fuck it up. lol