I met this girl about three months ago through a discussion group formed in one of my college classes. since then we have taken on a leadership role within the group in planning most of the events and organizing discussions.recently ive become super attracted to this girl. She has always been an attractive girl but recently ive realized that she is also super smart, funny, interesting, easy going and just generally of a good nature. Very recently only myself and her showed up to the group and we discussed our personal lives, our jobs, common social anxieties and seemed to really develop a connection. What i'm wondering is if this connection likely means i've been friend zoned. In the most recent get together she seemed to stay behind after while I was paying my bill and everyone else had left and we carried on chatting while heading in the same direction. She also seemed to respond positively when i suggested I was going to try a certain pickup line next time in the bar (it was ultra corny) and she said "well it would work on me." The complication is that another friend within the group has told me that this girl has already admitted to him that she is attracted to him, however he is in a long term relationship. I question both whether this is a true statement and even if it is if it was said in a joking manner or not very seriously, its hard to say.
One key thing to mention is that there is been zero kino at this point as its kind of an odd place to kino someone, while we are talking academics. My question is basically what are my chances? Have I been friend zones? Can I progress things along without making things ackward if shes not interested? and how much mind should I pay to my friends claim that shes got a thing for him? Should I ask her if she does? ie "so it seems like you and such and such have got something going whats that all about?" casually. Or is that a recipe for friendzoning? Tell me how to play this.

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Dude just go in for the kill and just for her. You can do it man. Even if you are in the friend zone, you can get out but it's not easy. just start asking her to go to movies and hangout just as friends.

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The easiest way to find out, is to give her some light sexual compliments. Tell her she is really hot, keep talking and move on in the conversation before she has the chance to say anything, and see how she reacts. If she looks very awkward/uncomfortable, then you're probably in the friend zone. Feel free to give her a second similar compliment shortly after to check if you were right the first time! If she smiles and looks a little shy, then you're in.

If you are in the friend zone, then how you proceed from here depends on how much you want her verses whether you are prepared to loose her. Because you can often get out of the friend zone, but it risks ruining the friendship. Luckily, the way you get out of the friend zone is the same way you take things to the next if you are not in the friend zone (which means it doesn't matter if you mis-interpreted her reaction to your compliments). You take her out, escalate, and take her home.

And if you are not in the friend zone and she likes you, then hurry up and take her out already.

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Dude, you haven't even kissed her yet. Ofcourse you are in the friendzone.

And who cares what your friend says. He's just trying to discourage you because he probably likes the girl too. FYI, don't tell people who you like.

Also, you have oneitis.

Here is my system (Redsky's System) for finding out if you're friendzoned and possibly getting out of the friendzone and even getting a kiss out of it:


The first step is asking her to meet you some time, just to chill. If she agrees then that's a start.

Meet at a park or somewhere with little distractions. Don't expect to be with her more than an hour, unless you think you have a chance at fucking her.

When together, talk to her playfully about a movie at first and then try to get her to talk about sex.

A good way is to suggest a movie you thought was funny. My favorite to talk about is Seth Macfarlane's 'Ted', because it has quite a bit of sexually suggestive humor.

Make sure you turn your body away, after she tells you something and look at something. Then turn back to her, after 2 seconds and continue talking. This will make her more eager to talk because she feels like your interest is waning.

Also, don't be afraid to laugh. Just laugh naturally. Laughter releases hormones that make you feel good. Even better if she starts laughing with you.

If she acts prudish then say something like, "oh, are you a virgin?" If she says no then say something like, "are you worried that the big bad men are going to corrupt the poor innocent women" jokingly. You can say that even if she isn't acting prudish honestly. She will most likely laugh.

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If she's a virgin then continue the same way but I doubt she will be giving you her pussy for awhile. But stick with it. If she is a virgin, you can always have other girls on the side just to ease the wait. The reason I say this is because when she finally gives it to you then you will be much more than just some guy she had sex with.

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Anyway, make sure you lightly tap her, while talking, once every 10 mins to get her to focus and have a start for kino. Then stop walking or get her to stand up, if sitting.

Put your hands out, palms up, in front of her and say let me see your hands. This is a test for compliance. That test is, pretty much, where you find out if she likes you, even a little bit..

-If she puts them on top of yours then she is most likely interested.

-If not, then she isn't interested. Talk to her for a couple more mins, not to be rude and then tell her you gotta go and don't walk her to her car or anything. You can continue being friends without any harm after this also.

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When she puts her hands on top, pull her in lightly and put your hands around her waist. Then tell her that you think she is cute and move your head close to hers so you are touching foreheads. Then move your head back slowly and if she follows to go in for the kiss, then take it.

This is one of Mystery's techniques: If she doesn't try to kiss you by now, then move your head back to her forehead and ask her if she wants to kiss you.

If she says yes, then take the kiss asap. If she says maybe, then say "I guess we'll find out." and take it anyway. If she says no, then say, "I didn't want to kiss you either, I just wanted to see what you'd say."

Even if she said no, she did still let you put your arms around her. So she is, to some extent, interested.

You can continue talking or end the meeting if you aren't feeling it. Maybe hang out again if she is still showing some kind of interest at school or whatever. However, if she isn't kissing you by now I would personally next her. You could try for a second meeting and try to close for a kiss but I personally would just let it go.

-A kiss is the door for entering some kind of romance with a girl.-

For me though, I actually like to say something to distract them and take the kiss even when they said no and laugh about it and leave shortly after.

-I have still banged girls who said no to the kiss, but I trick them into getting it anyway. I also didn't bang girls who did give me the kiss. So don't be discouraged because she is still interested somewhat.-

If you get the kiss, then stay with her for aprox. 3 mins and talk playfully with her some more. After these 3 mins, then tell her you need to go and walk her to her car or the metro or wherever. Say bye and walk home without looking back.

After this, Congrats, you have just reached a new milestone, 'Seduction'.

By now you will know, A: If she lets you hold her hands and put your arms around her waist, then there is interest. B: If she doesn't then you are obviously in the friendzone.

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Thanks for the tips guys, however not quite what I was looking for, I'll try to be more clear. Its only been a week since I first met this girl one on one and its only been since that time that I've developed an interest in her, which is to say that if I have been friendzoned I am perfectly content with that-she will become part of my inner circle and hopefully she has some cute friends.
I'm more interested in the possibility that she is interested in me rather than if shes not. I guess what i'm really looking for is a subtle way to hang out with her 1 on 1 without asking her on a date, just something casual- that if she is not interested will not seem like a date.
I understand the theory of how to find out if i'm friendzoned- flirt with her, see how she reacts, if good escalate if bad friendzoned. I simply want a one on one meeting with her where I can test the water and am perfectly content to find out that either she is attracted to me or shes not. She isnt a long love of mine or something of that nature more just a casual interest whom I need to decide whether I should persue or bring into my inner circle.

Just text her this.

Text 1: "Are you free on X day?"

If yes,

Text 2:"How bout we meet up -X day- on -X- street and -X- ave at -whenever time-."

If not available, Then ask what day she's free. Once she tells you, then proceed with text 2 again.

If she agrees then finish with, "Ok, see you -X day-

*Emoticons here and there make it seem more casual, not too many though*

If she asks something like, what you got planned, then say, " I didn't plan anything. Just wanted to go to a spot I like and go from there."

Don't text her after it's set up, unless she texts you first. She will most likely follow up with you an hour or 2 before the scheduled time to confirm.

Good luck

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