I went out with some guys yesterday to do some sarging at a club.
Well i did open some sets, i was talking to some girls, and i think i made some of them interested in me.
Sometimes the girls got interupted by their friends on the middle of our conversation (and yes the girls gave me some IOI's), and in that case when i lost my attention, i just turned around and started to talk to somebody else (i guess that's one of the rules? But correct me if i'm wrong).

Anyway, i went down to the dancefloor and started to dance with some friends. Then i decided to open some sets on the dancefloor. So i literally started to jump around to the music and dance with everybody i saw (first of all guys), i succed to make them all wild and i became the center of the attention on a part of the dancefloor.

Then i saw a target on the dancefloor. Well, actualy i didn't made her a target right on the spot. Anyway it looked like she was dancing with some guys (who i tought were random and not with her on the club).
So i needed to loosen up this guys first. So i made them dance more wildly, and they bacame all like "you're awesome dude", and we jumped around to the house music, and ofc the target got excited to and started to dance with us (or actualy i started to dance with them, but it felt like she was dancing with us haha).

I tried not to give her to mutch attention, so i gave it to them equally.
But i didn't want to bond me to much to that set so i opened up a new ser just beside us. Then the set with my target went to the bar to buy some drinks. I went after (without the notice it). And stood beside on of the guys. I ordered a beer, and look at him and i said
"hey it's you! The wild one!"

So we started to talk and my target and the other guy joined our conversation (success!). The i started to joke around and they intruduced them selfes. And she asked what my name was.
Then i said that we should sit down somewhere. And we found a table.
While we were talking, it all went smooth, she was Kino'ing quite alot, (for example: "Oh stop it!" and then push me away in a friendly way).
And i was ofc Kino'ing back.

We went out to get some fresh air (in their case, smoke ).
I tried the Evil Fluffy Bunny on her (the one Ezo invented).
I grabbed her from beside, and looked at her friends and asked "if she a bad or a good girl?".

They said both. And i said that i could try a test on her if they realy want to know.
They all got excited, so.. I can say that i almost screwed it up there. I kind remembered half of it, so sometimes i had to stop to think, and that almost screwed up the moment..
BUT, they asked what the point was, i said that if she luaghed, then she's the bad one. Then i starred at her and said, "or did you think it was funny?", and she almost laughed, then i confirmed that she was both bad and good! *LIFE SAVER*

Then her brother (one of them was apparently her brother), said that she's bad, because she had guys in her room, besides her BOYFRIEND (he confirmed that they had sex). So she was like all embaressed (in a humorous way), then i looked at me and said "- yes, she actualy have a boyfriend".
So they started to talk about sex (i actualy didn't say anything in that conversation, but they was like jokingly arguing with each other), and i was just laughing and pointing at her and Kino'ing when i got the chance.
(i honestly think that she wasn't planing on telling me about her BF)

Anyway we went down to dance again. And that's where things got hot. We started to dance very intimately. She had her arms on my shoulders (closer to the neck), almost hugging my head. We danced, and i tried to make it more and more intimately, so i could kiss her.
But that didn't work out.. She was like closing her eyes (and looking a little bit down). It looked like she was in some kind of enjoy-mode.
Then when i was about to kiss her when she looked up, her brother passed by to go out and smoke so she started to follow him right away! (crap...)

Unfortunately i went after.. when we came up, the outdoor area was closed. So we went down to start dancing again. AND again we started to dance all intimately, i grabed her hands, and she hugged my hand (definitely IOI). There was alot of IOI's on the dasncefloor. But once again this time she only closed her eyes and was like in the enjoy-mode again.

Then her brother came again... and said something in hear ear. Then she said to me that they had to go. I don't realy remember what i said, but i went from there and tried to find my friends. Well, i didn't find them, so i went down to the dancefloor again to take a look, and saw she was dancing with her brother (wtf? i tought the were about to go).

After a while we were dancing again (now i actualy feel like a fucking underdog..........) once again, no success witht he kiss. Then they went up to take their jackets, and i was already outside, tried to pretend that i was on the phone (i was actualy waited them to pass me by).

When they did i was like "oh it's you again".
Then we went down to the subway. We talked, i kept my distance and was talking to her brother instead. Then on the subway, her brother and his friends sat down, and i was standing up with her and talking. Then i said:
- You guys are cool, we should meet up sometimes.
And she was like sure!
Then i said - Where, how, when? (shouldn't have done that....)
And she laughed a bit and said that she could take my number. Then i said that i could take her number instead. She gave it to me, and i sent her a text (in case of if it was fake), then she got it, and asked if it was me, that's when i said "now you have my number to".

Then when we were about to say bye (like 3min after the n-close). I hugged her, then i said, give me another hug and almost tried to kiss her (that's the moment i wasn't sure if she got that or not). Anyway i said goodbye to her brother and the dude and went home.


Time for Day 2.
I haven't text her yet, and i don't realy know what to say or when to text her.
Well in Sweden we almost all the time communicate with text message before we call or meet up.

So my question is. How should i act from now on? (Keep in mind that she have a boyfriend, so i guess there's different rules then - or correct me if i'm wrong).


Thank you in advance!

Comon guys!! I will realy appreciate if you could give me some tip!

I'm SPAM texting with her. It's going very well. I will ask her out for bowling on Day 2.
What routines should i use? (She is a HB9, but very nice - In other words she's not a bitch).

I can relate to this. I also got n-close (HB 9) couple days ago and we have been texting for 2 days now. So, yeah, i do not know what to text her today. She is living in suburbs, so she cant come to town every day and she is going to school (she is 18 years old). She said she does not have enough time and i get it, but i think i can convince her to meet with me next weekend, but i dont want to be needy and boring talking about that. I know she likes me, i did compliance testing and she was receptive, gave me lots of IOIs and everything was cool.

So should I text her every day or cool her off for one day? My goal is to see her again next weekend.

If i were you, i would find out when she's coming to town. And then text her the day before to remind her that you two are going to see eachother, something like "Curious to see me again?" or something like that.

If you text to much, you would not have alot to talk about when you meet.

Just a suggestion from personal experience

Thanks for the advice. I have not got lots of experience to give you advices, but i think that was a good pick up man.

So, yeah, dont know should i text her every day till next weekend? Should i set up a date for next weekend, something special, dont know, lets say i invite her to go to the mall, cause i wanna buy something for myself.

If i were you, i would not text her more than every other day. Or don't text her at all if you feel that the situation fits for that tactic.

Set a date for bowling or maybe some fun activity (maybe something you are good at, so you can "help" her improve her skills on that one activity).
Make it a fun day/night, don't focus to much on that this is actualy a date.

Thanks Maxs, i thought not texting her till thursday, when i will text her, set up a date for saturday or sunday, and if she cant or wont, who gives a fuck! If she really likes me, she will come, and if shes really busy, i could wait, but i will not think about her all day long...no time for wasting...time for some cold approaches

Max's,

First of all I hate the term n-close since I don't think getting a number is closing anything. Girls give their numbers for all sorts of reasons. And often they have no intention of doing anything when you use it.

You did a lot of good things here though and should be proud of making an effort and being social like that. Very good practice.

I don't know for sure, but my instinct is that this girl has a boyfriend but is just a really fun outgoing girl. So she's willing to have fun with you and wasn't going to say no to the number. But I'm not sure what kind of connection you really have with her.

To her you may just be the guy who kept her occupied and having a good time on a night away from her boyfriend. She may be willing to have more fun with you on the side of him if that's what you're after and are interested in. But to get much further you'd have to be someone she sees as a challenge to her investment in her boyfriend.

I think the problem may be that you stayed in attraction and never really moved to deeper connection. You never pulled her off the dance floor to go talk, just you two, and really qualify her and have her earn your deeper interest. So the connection is somewhat superficial.

I'll be curious to see if you are ever able to get her to meet up again.

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Update!

Day 2! "Quick facts!"
We were texting. She told me that she's at work and wanted to have some fun because she was bored to death. I said, meet me and i'll show you a good time.
She said that she will finish her job at 4PM (she told me where also).

I said, wait for me outside your job in 30min (she got surprised but said okay).
So i drove there, and picked her up. She was actualy realy happy to see me.
We went to a park, and just sat and talked and laughed alot. She was talking like 80% of the conversations. And asked me alot of questions and gave alot of IOIs (touching hair, commented my eyes etc). When she talked i smiled at her and had this niice eye-contact. (i told some funny stories myself).
(she was talking about that her relationship with her BF was boring, and she had already cheated on him 2times (definitely IOI) then we started to talk about the fun of cheating .

Then we went to another place, talked a bit more. I asked her if she was in hurry. She was like "noo, not at all".
But i needed to go back home (work). And she was living near by, so i drove her home. And there it got a bit intense! I asked her when i could meet her again and had this deep eye-contact. She was smiling and said "i don't know". The we planned a next date/meeting. We hugged (i pretty sure she was expecting a kiss (but it all happened so fast so i didn't k-closed).

I looked her in the eyes and said. "you know what. To be sure that we meet again. I'll give you this brace, and i want it back next time we meet". I put it on her arm. And looked her deep in the eyes and said "see you soon" and smiled alot, (gave another hug). She was like realy smiling!! Then she left.

About the k-close. I think i did good that didn't take the risk. But it definitely klicked in the end


All from me by now! I'll see her prob next weak. (my first rule today is - Don't text her today at all - To make sure that her excitement lasts til tomorrow).




Confession: I'm about to get one-iti. But i'm fighting it very hard. She's just so fkn beautiful (HB9).

Maxxx!!

This is beautiful! I agree with clearspeak about the term "n-close," yet you're freaking awesome in this respect! I look forward to hearing more about this.

When it comes to the girl -

1) TWO STEPS FORWARD, ONE STEP BACK
2) Hypnotic Rapport - If you're familiar with NLP

Best advice anyone's ever given me. Need to follow that more often myself, but this caused my first LTFBuddy Relationship (New term...invented it myself

Let me know how your interaction goes!!

Talk soon.

Your Friend,

~ Surrep

Can you give any example of "two steps forward, one step back"?

And what's Hypnotic Rapport and NLP?

Ohhhh this is a fun topic! Two Steps Forward and One Step Back is a useful principle for ALL relationships...not just PU!

Here are a few examples of Two Steps Forward, One Step Back.



Example 1!

Two Steps Forward: Giving her a hug and looking deeply into her eyes, totally there; Then...

One Step Back: Still keep in touch with her...perhaps one arm around her waist as you suddenly think of a thought different than her.



Example 2!

Two Steps Forward: You express sexual intent (this is my favorite); You're both on the bed; you have your hands on her hips, and you tell her deeply, "Hey. Take off your pants" in a assertive, naturally sexual way--as if it was the natural thing to do; Then...

One Step Back (Version A): In the case the she says, "You know, I'm not that easy you know," or "I'm not used to this," do a freeze out...simply smile, say "Alright," then lie back and go to sleep (I can't not smile when I'm doing this...lol!)

One Step Back (Version B): In the case she smiles and simply takes her pants off, start kissing her on the lips (FACE LIPS), then start kissing down her neck...maybe bite it a little...then PULL BACK, and just look at her with a smile for a bit. Your hand can still be there...



Example 3!

Two Steps Forward: You start rubbing your magic wand/johnson around her portal, maybe even go in a bit; Then...

One Step Back: Pull out (Lol!). Smile as you start kissing her...she'll whine when you do this



AND NOW, FOR THE BEST ONE OF ALL. You can take this even into the very deepest parts of the sexual relationship: THE ORGASM.



Example AWESOME!

Two steps forward: YOU HUMPIN', AND YOU HUMPIN' AND YOU HUMPIN AND YOU HUMPIN' til that point where she's moaning and she's just about to do that "Oawhhh" sound, and then!....

One step back (hahahaha!): RIGHT before she orgasms, you kiss her, tongue in her mouth, whatever, then PULL It right out! Lol, this is a MAGIC formula, because you will create a SEX DEMON right before your eyes! She'll be like "PLEEEASSE put it in. Just stick you dick INSIDE ME!" It's the best thing ever!



Now, I probably need to take my photo off from my avatar after this post, because this is some very powerful shit I just told you, and it's something I learned from David D. This is not to be used in some cruel way. Just in an off and on way, that will SUPER charge you! It's amazing what withholding with that moment can do.



For NLP, now. NLP, or Neuro-linguistic Programming, is a VERY set of "tools" (or "toys" based on how you use it!) that allows you to influence people at some VERY deep levels! We're talking rewriting the code in their operating systems, so to speak.

Hypnotic rapport is a concept from NLP where you "Match and Mirror" the other person.

Matching and mirroring is where you mimic them:

Physiologically (the way they hold themselves, the way they breathe, eye movements, fidgets),
Verbally (pitch, volume, tempo...etc.), and
Linguistically (do they use word patterns based on feeling, sound, or pictures?)



Let me know what you think about this brief introduction to your new best friends... the 2+ , 1- principle and NLP! Talk to you soon, Max!

Your Friend,

~ Surrep

SOURCES: David D's Power Sexuality + Experience

Thanks mate for explaining those stuff

About the two steps forward and one back. Could you give some examples in situations when you are sargin. I mean, when you just met the girl and want to escelate (by using the two forward and one back)!

Thanks in advance friend! ;D

Sarging Example

Two Steps Forward: Actually approaching the set
One Step Back: False Time Constraint and Neg ("Hey, you guys look like experts!..." [Rock away...it'll look silly at first, but the effect is beautiful] I've only got a second," [Notice her shoes] "Oh, man," [smile] "Those look comfortable!"

Two Steps Forward: Run your opener, talk about something fun that logically follows it
One Step Back: Do a little wave to another set behind the group you're talking to (conveys preselection and slight detachment from the conversation); Maybe give another neg to the target if she's still not open or giving IOIs

Two Steps Forward: After telling your story, do something fun like The Cube or the Numbers Game with the set where you're really all about reading them for a bit...moving closer to the Us mentality and being a friend who's been there for a while
One Step Back: Cut the routine halfway and start talking about a fun story with your life for a bit--Neg, if necessary--keep it fun by having fun stuff to talk about on hold.



I look forward to hearing what you think!

Talk soon!

Your Friend,

~ Surrep.

Thanx man! I think i got the point !!