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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:47 am 
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I'm at a complete loss. I can do all of this game, up close, from afar and pretty much anywhere. Everything could be going great, friendly and open and then I close. Right after this happens everything changes, "You're the one" or "You heal my heart" or "I think I love you" and it just goes crazy after that. Suddenly they are calling me every day, texting constantly and wanting to "Make it real". I don't know how to stop this without hurting their feelings. I am not in this to hurt anyone, I want to be able to let them down easily but I still want them to have a good time. Please Help!

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So when she asks if she can call me daddy thats a bad sign? lol

I am honest, I am also loving and caring. I make them feel safe, not just with me but in general. I have no issue with kink. I encourage them to explore and be open with their desires and fantasies, I also encourage them to be naughty. I rarely have one night stands and it is mostly always a repeat offence.

Everything can be going fine until sex, they can tell me that they understand it's just a friendly thing and then we get together and then things change.

Everything in your post makes sense. Mostly the part about the women I game. Sometimes I wonder if I am getting gamed in return.

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I don't know how to stop this without hurting their feelings. I am not in this to hurt anyone
what are you ''in this'' for?
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I want to be able to let them down easily but I still want them to have a good time. Please Help!
you don't have to let anybody down from anything if you are not leading them on to begin with


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You say it yourself; you make them feel safe but at the same time allow them to be open-minded with you in bed without any judgement or prejudice. There arent many guys who can do that and girls stick to it like bees to honey.

I dont think you are getting gamed in return but I do believe you are creating too much depth with these women to not want a relationship afterwards. Regardless of how caring you are though, you cant blame yourself for these women feeling hurt if you have been up front from the start right?
lol so should I provide a bland sexual experience? Was talking to a girl from my past today and was told that same concept in different words.

I try not to blame myself but I really do not want to hurt people and I do not like carrying past sexual partners into current relationships. So if I get into one I have to tell them the fun is over, then they get mad because I didn't date them and you know how the rest goes.

Pump: The only thing I offer is a safe environment to explore and I get their back if need be. No walks of shame, no haha I got you. It's fun, deep and private.

I do not know what they are expecting, I offer friendship, safety and fun. However if I get into a relationship I need to cut them off. The reason I do this is for the great sex, I can get any girl to have sex with me but what I want is something with depth. So I open up to them and they open up to me. We have an amazing time and ruin some sheets, she explores something shes never done before.

It's late and I am starting to lose the ability to think clearly. I will reply more tomorrow. Thank you both very much for your input! I look forward to more.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:55 am 
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The reason I do this is for the great sex
so make this more clear to these women
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Pump: The only thing I offer is a safe environment to explore and I get their back if need be. No walks of shame, no haha I got you. It's fun, deep and private.

I do not know what they are expecting, I offer friendship, safety and fun. However if I get into a relationship I need to cut them off. The reason I do this is for the great sex, I can get any girl to have sex with me but what I want is something with depth. So I open up to them and they open up to me. We have an amazing time and ruin some sheets, she explores something shes never done before.
wtf are you talking about with all this random contradiction? none of this shit has anything to do with anything

what do you want? your post is so full of fuck and all over the place, you want to fuck a girl and never see her again?, you want to fuck a girl and keep it strictly sex? you want to fuck a girl and keep her around as a buddy but not date? you want to fuck a girl and be in a relationship with her but still see other girls? you want to fuck a girl and be in a relationship with her and remain monogomous? you simply want to fuck a girl and don't care what happens after?

wtf do you want? figure it out, make it clear to the women, problem solved, can't be led on if you are not expecting anything that hasn't already been clarified, and you can't be ''let down'' if you were not expecting anything to begin with, all that is delivered is what was expected

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if you really care as much as you say about not making girls feel bad, then you would just be honest to begin with and not lead them on, you can't just lead girls on to fuck them, then contradict yourself saying you give a shit, either you give a shit, or you don't, can't be half a gangster


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so make this more clear to these women
Thank you high speed, I would of never thought of that. I could tell a girl I just want to be friends with no sex at all and she will try to K close me. I couldn't make it more clear if I wrote it on their face.

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wtf do you want? figure it out, make it clear to the women, problem solved, can't be led on if you are not expecting anything that hasn't already been clarified, and you can't be ''let down'' if you were not expecting anything to begin with, all that is delivered is what was expected

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Everything could be going great, friendly and open and then I close. Right after this happens everything changes
I can only manage their expectations so much. I can't tell them I am going to take them home and ruin their sheets, that would make me sound like a douche. So I generally just keep it humble and say "We are going to have fun". So I take them home and ruin their sheets, they look at me surprised and then it starts. I could tell them to fuck off but that would again be rude. So Pump, my question to you is how would I managed their expectations about sex without being rude or a douche?

Thank you for your opinions Pump. Your approach is different from what I am used to.

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I can only manage their expectations so much. I can't tell them I am going to take them home and ruin their sheets, that would make me sound like a douche. So I generally just keep it humble and say "We are going to have fun". So I take them home and ruin their sheets, they look at me surprised and then it starts. I could tell them to fuck off but that would again be rude. So Pump, my question to you is how would I managed their expectations about sex without being rude or a douche?

Thank you for your opinions Pump. Your approach is different from what I am used to.
what exactly does this ^
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I'm at a complete loss. I can do all of this game, up close, from afar and pretty much anywhere. Everything could be going great, friendly and open and then I close. Right after this happens everything changes, "You're the one" or "You heal my heart" or "I think I love you" and it just goes crazy after that. Suddenly they are calling me every day, texting constantly and wanting to "Make it real". I don't know how to stop this without hurting their feelings. I am not in this to hurt anyone, I want to be able to let them down easily but I still want them to have a good time. Please Help!
have to do with this ^?

if a girl is expecting a relationship, and you don't want one, you don't sleep with her unless it is clear that you don't want one before hand, you simply make it clear to her before hand and you sleep with her or you don't sleep with her, or you sleep with her by leading her on to increase your chances of getting laid and stop pretending like you care when you don't, if you cared, you would not lead them on to get laid in the first place, one is not necessarily worse then the other, wanting to fulfill your needs ahead of hers does not necessarily make you a bad person or a ''douche'', but it is one or the other, there is no in between, can't be half a gangster, you either care, or you don't care, you can't just lead girls on and then say, ''yeah I really care about how they feel about this, but I'm not willing to be upfront about it to save them face before they do the dirty, cause then they are less likely to do the dirty'' then act like you give a shit after the fact, it's a contradiction, you can't let a girl down who knows the deal before it's made, she knows the deal if she gets false hope that you're going to sell her a ferrari when you straight up told her she was buying a ford, then her feeling let down is totally on her, not you, you already did your best to let her know what to expect, you didn't let her down in this case, she let herself down


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you already did your best to let her know what to expect, you didn't let her down in this case, she let herself down
This was the point that was made above and it is one that I agree with and understand. Is there a way to avoid this?

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you already did your best to let her know what to expect, you didn't let her down in this case, she let herself down
This was the point that was made above and it is one that I agree with and understand. Is there a way to avoid this?
beyond not sleeping with her when you get a clingy vibe, no


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Thank you both.

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