Over the years of being in the community, going out, networking, and just generally meeting a lot of people I have ran across plenty of so called "naturals." Many of these "naturals" do things that contradicts community teachings yet still get laid. Below I'm going to talk about a few of these guys that I have met over the last few years and briefly explain what they do.

Just to be clear... I'm am in no way, shape, or form saying that you should copy these guys. I'm not saying what they do will work for everyone. Hell, in some cases what some of these guys do is morally questionable. The names of the following has been changed.

Joe. Joe is 26 years of age, around 6 foot and slim built. Joe is a general manager of a local fast food place and has worked there for 5 years. Joe's entire method involves going out at 2am and going up to every single cute chick he sees and getting physical and sexual FAST. If the girl isn't willing to leave with him in five minutes he goes onto the next girl. He will do this until there are no more girls or until he pulls one home.

A good number of the girls Joe sleeps with are drunk (no surprise, right?) but often enough he nails a sober one who was impressed and turned on by his bold, direct behavior. This guy has been doing this from years and claims to have learned this from watching his older brother. I'm guessing his lay count is around 200. Joe doesn't do relationships. he never says why and although I have my theories I'll just leave it at that.

Rob. I met Rob at Myrtle Beach this year when he tried to sell me a condo or something. Rob is above average looks, also around 6 foot, and athletically built but not necessarily "buff."

What you have to know about Rob is that he is a scum bag. He ended up being a friend of a friend and I learned over drinks how he pics up women.

He approaches pretty damn near every hot chick he sees day and night and hands them his card. He introduces himself as a talent scout of a modeling agency and tells the girl she would be perfect and that she should call the number on the card to set up an interview. The card is real enough, the cell number listed on it works as does the website. So whats the catch? Hes not a talent scout and he built the website himself to appear more legit. When a girl calls him he sets up an interview and "suggest" that he could get her higher on "the list" if she sleeps with him. Thats pretty much all. He says he has fucked around 50 women in the last two years doing this. He may or may not be exaggerating but overall I believed him.

Nate. Nate is a buddy from Chicago. Extremely average looks and stands around 5'9. Slim profile. Dresses very well and is extremely fun, sociable, and charming.

Nate doesn't exactly "cold approach" in the traditional community sense. Nate goes about his day and strikes up conversation with damn near everyone with in earshot of him. Generally its just small talk and its just Nate being Nate. However, when its a cute girl he will be his regular self, doesn't try to "game" her or anything. Before he or the girl leaves he hands her a card with his cell number on it and tells her "I throw big parties a lot and also organize social events. Ever want to come out with us just give me a call." He will also post on facebook daily about his friends going out to a bar or him having a party and invites everyone.

Nate then goes out or has his party with his friends and pretty much always some of the girls he met shows up. Because Nate is always the one setting up things he is the head of his social circle and therefore has the most "social value." The women pick up on this and when you combine that with his charm and ability to make people laugh, many of the girls become interested in him. Nate simply looks for cues for the ones who are interested and then he takes his pick. Simple as that.

In part 2 I'll introduce a few more guys I know and their unique ways of getting laid.

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to be honest, I believe Nate is the only real natural in the list. The rest are lyers or play the numbers game. But nice list

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I used to agree with you but I don't anymore, I do think most very good Naturals are guys that do warm approaches. The first two likely aren't nearly as good as the third one.

Why aren't the other 2 naturals? Because they go with a raw go up to everyone style? While my style is very similar to the last guys style (it almost sounded like I was being described) I certainly wouldn't say the others weren't Naturals, if they never practiced PUA what would you call it?

I only have one friend that is ridiculous with women (sleeps with like 50-60 women a year by being himself), though I know a few naturals. He usually taps into girls that already have interest but I've also seen him do cold approaches.

I also say a lot of Routines are lies to me as well. If you are practicing the style of using someone else's words that is lies to me. What is the difference between lying about your behavior and your words and lying about what you do for a living? I suppose the context of the situation but either way they are lying to get laid I see no difference if you need to use deception to get laid.

Peace and Love

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I assumed a natural was a guy who got laid almost effortlessly. By doing little more than being himself. The best naturals can hardly explain how they get laid. Thier methods are so engrained in thier personalities and lifestyle nobody else can quite replicate it.

Nate sounds like a definate natural. The other two, I'm not so sure. If running internet scams or getting a rise out of strangers is what these guys do all the time, then maybe they are. However, if it's just what they learned to do to get laid, then no. That's a planned method, no matter where they learned it from.

There's nothing wrong with guys using planned methods. I'd like to hear about other unique ones. Just wouldn't call it "natural".

I see Nate's success as pre-disposed proximity; and smart "Natural" game, but also has dedicated a large portion of his life to "gaming". The investment is large.

The other two use borderline coercion, not a good idea!

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Many "naturals" can indeed explain what they do. They often cant break it down as good as some "pua books" do but they often have a good idea what it is they do right.

Tucker Max, one of the most famous "naturals," even has a post on his site explaining how he gets women.

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I think I have been a little bit of everyone on this list to be honest, at one point in my life or another, maybe not so much the "hit on every girl" and "only go for drunk girls" guy but I have done a lot of similar things, including telling women I was a model scout. I never once saw any of it as scummy. I never thought of the lies I spoke to be disrespectful, more as just acting or creating an appropriate persona to get in the door.

The thing is, I always knew I was a decent and good guy and was still 100% myself. I still relied on my wit, charm, style and personality to seduce the woman but sometimes some outrageous bull shit is just what's needed to get the appropriate attention from specific targets. I've done crazy shit! and had fun doing it. Fake accents, made up stories even bullshit with wing men in a group effort, I could go on and on. It may not be for most and some may look down on it, but I have to admit when i was much younger bull shitting chicks was a significant part of my game, especially when needed.

I know quite a few naturals myself, and they all tend to have specific qualities that are the same and in my opinion make them good.

Sharp wit
Dress well
Take care of their body's
Very friendly and social, life of the party
Polite and likeable
Want every hot girl they see and not afraid to pursue
Very aware, highly observant and perceptive
Not afraid to bullshit their way in.


Some of these guys are only a 5-6 on the looks scale, but it doesn't matter, its all the other characteristics that make them attractive, its just a matter of them getting to show them off and some women will not let you close enough.

That's where the bullshit is needed. Women live in their minds, in their fantasies, the closer you get to that, the easier they fall.

There's nothing wrong with a little BS as long as it doesn't change your core values.

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For me at least there is a line between:

HB: What do you do for a living?
You: I'm a massage therapist, I spend all day giving body rubs.
HB: Wow, really?
You: I give an awesome massage, maybe I'll give you one sometime

True I'm not a massage therapist...but I do give a kick ass massage which is super easy to escalate to sex with any girl who is attracted to you.

And:

HB: What do you do for a living?
You: I'm a talent scout for xxx model agency.
HB: No you aren't!!!
You: Yeah, here's my card. You have some serious potential, check out my website and get back to me.

And then telling the girl you'll help her get a job if she fucks you. That's not game its a fake business transaction. Honestly kinda like buying a hooker.

Karma is a bitch and IMO solid game should leave you feeling BETTER about who you are. If the only way you can feel better about yourself is to pay a girl to fuck you...how AFC is that?

most naturals i know have these things in common:

1.- aggressive
2.- physical
3.- sexual

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A natural is just as it sounds, someone that learned how to seduce women on his own.( without the help of the seduction community or books, etc) There can be a million different natural styles. None better then the other, all that really matters is what works for that individual.

As for getting laid effortlessly, only a few can be so lucky. I may have a high success rate with women but it's from a life time of effort. 95% of the population will have to work at it. I certainly have had to. It's one thing to engage a woman in conversation or have a woman expressing interest and attraction, it's another to have her panties on the floor and her screaming your name.

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hmm, so many want to put these guys down, but yet they all get success in their own ways

who's to say one guy has a better or worse style when they are subjectively reach their respected goals with the least amount of effort from their own personal points of view

there's this weird misconception in the community that you have to be a certain kind of guy to get laid in a certain kind of way, but the results speak for themselves

if one guy goes out and his goal is to go out and get laid by as many women as possible and doesn't like to waste time on those that don't deliver, but he sees the results he wants, does that make him bad at pickup?

if one guy goes out and his goal is to lay models via a complicated farce, and he does so with from what is in his point of view the least amount of effort required and reaches his goal, and consistently ''tricks'' girls who are aspiring to be models into sleeping with him, does this make him bad at pickup?

if one guy goes out and his goal is to find girls in the least morally objectionable way from his point of view, and does it by inviting them to parties, does this make him bad at pickup?

what is pickup?, what do you care about?, how you do it?, what matters? the results you get or how you do get it done?

all subjective to a person's moral values and how they objectively view their own personal goals

everyone who gets into this will develop their own way, one way is not necessarily better then another way, if you are satisfied, you are satisfied

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I actually want to dispel this notion too. To be honest, I don't think every dude likes every hot girl. Sometimes I meet hot chicks which annoy the hell out of me (especially the narcissist "me me me" types) and I just want to get away from them ASAP. Also, there are some HB6-8s I end up really wanting to bang too because of one reason or the other.

As Pumpington points out PUA is not monolithic. None of us need the same tactics or to have the same taste in chicks.[/quote]

Not necessarily, I've seen many men fail to seal the deal after the woman showed massive attraction and interest. I've had it happen to myself, especially when I was younger. I simply failed to recognize the tipping point and capitalize. I know many a man that have failed to finish a seduction after all the signs were there.

Not to mention how fast a woman can go from hot to cold and for a million apparent reasons. This is why I always preach to strike while the iron is hot.

I'm sure many of you have had it happen as well. It's simply the repercussions of the female emotional mind.

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