Hi guys, after my last topic about a bitchy girl I have a different one with problems of a totally different type. Once again, please don't give "find another girl" or "stop focusing on her" replies, I'm gaming plenty of girls no problem thanks.

OK, so this one is deeply religious.... To the extremes. Met her, lives a few hours away. Had a good time when we first met, made a good connection. After a few weeks of flirting (she always replies to texts and we talk now and then by phone and on SPAM) I decided to take her out, we went back to her place and started making out. The girl is ridiculously hot and I was apparently her first kiss at 26! She refused to go any further due to religion (no sex before marriage shit) and we just slept in the same bed and I kissed her goodbye.

Later, after consulting her religious friends, I got a message saying that night was a sin and it will never happen again. She thinks I'm a great guy and finds me very attractive but doesn't see herself marrying me so wants to be good friends - especially as I am not religious. Apparently by kissing her I have kissed someone else's wife(talking about her future husband who doesn't yet exist). Crazy eh? Does anyone have any experience of breaking god or getting round this? I get the feeling her interest has dipped now she has lived this fantasy she had. I have said I'll just get someone else and she just wished me all the best. Any hope?

you don't seem to quite understand this paradox, the opposite of neediness, is indifference, meeting a whole bunch of girls at once helps you shift into this mindframe of being indifferent to specific girls, if you can't be indifferent, you will have trouble acting through your intent

for example, if you don't care about a girl and she acts rudely towards you, instead of sitting around being her little bitch and just taking being mistreated cause you desperately want the pussy, you will just have more self respect for yourself then that and walk away, or ignore her and place your focus on something else or talk some shit instead of remaining passive and attentive to her so that she hopefully still likes you,

if you don't care about a girl, you will be able to express yourself, relax and have fun more easy, cause it doesn't really matter to you if she likes you or not, cause if you don't really care about a girl, it doesn't really matter to you if she sleeps with you or not, maybe you will try to sleep with her for fun because sex is fun, but if you truly care, then you will not be able to just do that, because when you do care, the chance of her ''rejecting you'' or ''not liking you'' and you moving on actually matters to you (you don't want to not be liked, and you don't want to have to move on cause you need her specifically to like you, cause you care)

this is why the staple advice is, ''go meet other girls'', or ''stop focusing on her'', this advice is given when it is obvious that the guy is needy, it is not given because it is assumed that he doesn't know any girls, you can know plenty of girls and still be needy, it is given cause he's probably too pussy mode and doesn't try to fuck girls on a regular basis because he cares too much and falls in love with girls way to easily

he needs more experience so that he doesn't value girls so highly and isn't placing them high up on their important pedastool and giving a shit about particular girls, you don't game one girl, you meet many girls and game them, then select the ones you want out of the girls that screen the best and are the most complitible for you, and if you are asking the question, how do I get this girl?, then you are totally missing the point and need more practise, the more indifferent/self confident/experienced you are, the stronger your skills will become, thus you will know how to get that ''one girl'', cause you can get many girls and have experienced a whole bunch of female behavior and can make out patterns of behavior that you have deleloped your on contingencies for how to handle
chances are you weren't her first kiss, and chances are she is willing to have sex before marriage, could be wrong, but this just seems like asd
if that wasn't asd, and she truly is that religious, then why the fuck do you want to get with this girl?, you'll have to marry her, what a waste of time

if you absolutely need this, then just hold congruence to your frame, you like her, you're genuine, blah blah blah, lets just take it slow and go out to do something non sexual, cause I want you, not your sex, etc. etc.

you don't have to explicitly state that, in that way and explain it to her, but frame it that way, stay genuine in your intentions to see her and spend time with her, rather then just to fuck her, and dis-agree with her and her friends views, make your intentions more clear, and don't get dis-tracted by her opinion of you or of your intentions, just stay certain of yourself and what choice you want to make, and hold the fucking line

also, I know you don't want to hear this shit, but meet other girls, this shit matters too much to you, no girl matters until she proves other wise, and this girl isn't making a very good case for herself, she is weird, what's she got going on for her?, looks?, look around, if you live in a city and take a 2 hours walk, you will probably see plenty of girls who are way better looking that you could talk to

GOOD LUCK