I don't frequent strip clubs very often, however, my friend bought me a lapdance last night with an 8 or 9. We went to the back and she sat down on a couch and I sat next her, put my arm near her on the back of the couch and, being in what I consider a 'business' environment I said, so, how about that lapdance? Instead of going straight into it like I expected she started talking to me and asking questions about myself. We made a little small talk and flirted a bit. Best lapdance I've had, although I really haven't had many. I made an innocent comment about her butt and said you've got a cute tooshie which made her giggle I guess she didn't expect me to say it like that.

In any case.. I find a bit odd, afterwards she told me to give her a hug. No one likes being played, and I'm very cautious of women in a working environment when there is money to be made. I just disregarded it as her trying to pull heart strings so she could make a bit more money, until I told my friend about it, now I'm not certain.

What do you make of this?

Well she's working for money and you don't know her personally. She might do that everytime or she might do that because she just feels so with no sympathy towards you.

In order to think about something more try to get her sometime outside the job.

Strippers know that their job isn't just to give lap dances and show their bits to men who tip. They know (probably better than their customers) that their job is to provide a space where a man can feel like a "real man". This means not only making themselves appear to be sexually available, but also a lot of ego stroking. Being fascinated by what you do and what you like, finding your jokes funny, engaging in shows of affection (like hugs or kisses on the cheek) that men think are honest and not part of what they're paying for. Strippers are fucking smart when it comes to reading other people and being chameleons for their clients' tastes. But you know, just because it was a paid interaction and only simulated interest, doesn't mean it's not worth a repeat visit if it makes you feel good. She does her job well and works hard for that money.

I picked up a stripper, but it's incredibly rare when it actually happens and a huge huge numbers game.

Using hired gun guides...breaking the "customer mold" and all this nonsense is ridiculously difficult. Sure you can start talking about their life and stuff like that but its not enough.

It may be rare for you my friend but it does not mean it is rare for all. Strippers are among the easiest women to manipulate into sex, if you understand their thought process.

In general, strippers are strippers for a reason, they are usually convinced that their value is based on how they look or how they can arouse men or stems from some sort of abuse from their youth (or whatever drove them to become strippers?)

If you are an attractive man with a decent intellect and an understanding of their static perception, they are incredibly easy targets.

The fact that they are usually one dimensional makes them a much easier equation to figure out.

When it comes to strippers it's an easy formula, you are either the sheep or the wolf, a majority of men are the sheep. If you want to fuck a stripper without paying, become the wolf.

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Ah....right...

SexAddict911
What you say about the mentality of strippers makes perfect sense.
Have you got any advice or tips on picking up strippers. I'm very intelligent and good at mental manipulation, Also quite attractive, I'd love to give it a shot. Mainly after advice on how to break her thought process of im just a guy who wants to see her naked.

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They're women with a unique skill set. I haven't been with a stripper, but I would assume the following: can be manipulative, probably looking for that one person who can actually inspire something more than physical attraction, probably uber experienced in the bed, highly seductive, and probably generally unpredictable.

Anyone have any other ideas? ^ haha

As I said before, if you want to pick up a stripper, don't be a SHEEP be a WOLF.

This means don't be a typical customer. Don't pay for or accept a lap dance when they offer it. Talk to them instead. ( say something like, I'd don't do lap dances, I'd much rather take you out to dinner) Show interest in them instead of their body. Get into their heads, don't show immediate attraction, show attraction after you've had a chance to chat with them(as in you've become attracted to their personality) if you can get them to open up about themselves even better.

The idea here is to get them out of the "you're a customer" mentality. The less you can act like a typical customer or patron the better. Then just like any other pickup, all other rules apply except for any type of sexual escalation or sexual tension building.

Build comfort
Build a connection
Show Interest
Set up another encounter outside of work, or secure the digits.


One problem you will encounter is that they are at work and looking to make money, so your time may be limited. It's best to talk to them after they've made their money or nearing the end of a shift. Your full efforts should be getting a day two in a different location( ie: go for coffee, get a bite to eat, or go for a drink or to do something fun and normal) or securing her digits. Don't talk about stripping at all. The better you can paint a picture or a fun normal time with you, the better your chances.

(Normal: park, art gallery, beach, theme park, maybe even dinner and dancing. etc etc)

If she is not from out of town, make all offers out of town. Strippers will commonly be from out of the town they are dancing in and will not want to hang out in that town, so be sure to make all invites as far away from where they work as possible.

It is critical that you talk to her outside of her work environment (even if you have to make friends only first) strippers commonly have a completely different personality when they are working, they become who their stage name is. They are very subservient and use their sexuality as a tool. Resist all of it while working on her and only show interest in her person not her body.

It is not uncommon for them to get asked out by guys trying the very same thing, so what's important is getting into their heads, building a connection, some will need you to persist ( as in go in more then once and continue to work them)

With all that being said, it's gonna all come down to how witty and charming you are as well as your ability to get her out of her working girl thought process.

Try to get her to open up about her dreams and ambitions, and or relate to good memories she has. A good sign that you are progressing well is if she tells you her real name. Be sure to ask at some point in the conversation, but only after you know you have build some comfort or a connection.

Good luck.

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Hands down! This some good stuff bro!

Regardless of talking about her ambitions and dreams, it's still a numbers game...otherwise why would it matter if its towards the end of the shift or beginning if its not a huge numbers game? Contradictory. Talking to them about their dreams, passions won't work if they are constantly in stripper mode...and some of them have committed boyfriends already or are married. This is why I hate stripper guides. It's rather retarded.

For an interesting look at the stripper's perspective, I suggest Katherine Frank's G-Strings and Sympathy. I also have a friend who has worked as a stripper (briefly) and nowadays does cam work because it fits better with her other work schedules and allows her greater autonomy over what work she does. Although I don't doubt that some of those women are able to be persuaded that a customer at one of those clubs could be a potential romantic interest, for the most part they're there to work.
Their work, from what I've heard, isn't limited to dancing and taking their clothes off; they are very very aware that men come into those places expecting a certain taboo to be broken, a certain SPAM that involves abandoning some norms. A lot of these women are not worried about it, not nervous about being naked in front of other people - as my friend put it, being naked becomes on par with any other outfit she would put on there, nothing to it. But they lie. They lie to get tips. It's a bigger turn on to the men to think that those girls are being brave, or getting turned on, while up on stage. And it's the same story with anything they say to you - most of it is probably at least a partial truth, but they're careful not to say anything that would disqualify them entirely (i.e. I'm a lesbian, I'm married with a kid). They work just as hard at their conversational routines as any pickup artist on here.
Just food for thought.

My advice would be, when in a stripclub, the friendzone is to be prefered. Everything about our job is sex and making a man wanna fuck us. Its a relief to get out of that if just for a moment, sometimes.

Our job is to make you feel comfortable without showing that we make an effort. Make the girl feel comfortable. Treat her like a friend, not a stripper. Outside of the club, run your game with negs and all, but inside you'll get further by being kind. Cause trust me, most of the clients aren't.

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I totally agree with Sex Addict here. I've fucked more strippers than I can count and not one of them has been from taking her home at closing time.

1) Never pay for a lapdance. The more you act like a customer the more you close the door on yourself. I use "Sorry, but I don't start things I'm not going to finish." (I deliver that with a slight smile and very direct eye contact)

2) Find a way to not be a customer. The at the two clubs I go to (I only go once, maybe twice a month) I have friends who either own or bartend at them. I'm an insider from the moment I walk through the door.

3) If you're there at closing time. You fucked up already. You should never been sitting at the bar of a strip club like a drooling chump at 1:30. You should have better things to do. You've got an awesome life full of cool stuff to do.

4) I've never asked a stripper to hang out. I'll do shots, talk, listen to their bs, tell them about my life. I do the groundwork for a time bridge and then let them ask me for my number of when I want to hang out.

5) Never buy a drink for a stripper. You CAN buy a shot for yourself and get her one too. Usually I'll get one for myself and the bartender and I'll get one for a stripper I'm interested in too (allowing her into the inner circle in her own club).

6) Never get hung up on any one girl in the club. They are totally outcome independent, you should be as well. Hang out, enjoy your time and see what clicks.

7) Eye contact is much more powerful in this kind of venue. These girls aren't shy. They are the wolves and you're in their den. Next time you're in a club watch how many guys can maintain eye contact. I made a girl drop a wad of ones just using direct eye contact last Fri night.

Don't 'hang around to say goodbye' if things feel stale. If you aren't having fun...bounce. It looks needy and EVERYONE can see it. This like so many other AFC tendencies ruins your value.

Strippers are both easier and harder to game than normal girls. Sex Addict is right, they are almost univerally one demensional if you make her feel like she's more than that when she's with you. You're in. But these girls are MASTERS of frame control. One crack and you're done.

All that said. Fucking strippers is awesome. 'Dating' them is awful. For the most part they carry around so much damage and baggage that there is a serious level of toxic cloud around them. If you hang with them on a regular basis you can expect to be in situations that are mostly stupid and sometimes dangerous.

Hope this added some value.

I echo most of this, and have a few things to add/restate.

The point with any woman is to "stand out", and separate yourself from the typical guy that they normally interact with.

Think about what that typical guy is, for a stripper. They all want pussy. They are there throwing money at them. They all think money will buy sex/affection. The women buy into this because it's part of their job.

Otherwise, you game them like you would any other woman... including DHV and Negs.

1. Don't buy dances. This puts you as a customer and a source of income.

2. Don't buy drinks. Again.. You are now a customer, and you show that you lack self control, which everyone in a stripclub lacks.

3. Go to clubs with a group of friends. Female friends especially. If you appear to be there to be with friends it looks a lot differently to the stripper than if you're there to look at naked girls. Further removes you from the pack.

4. Neg them. They have men telling them how hot, sexy, and beautiful they are all fucking night. Tell them their perfume smells cheap, or is bothering your eyes. Make fun of their fake-stripper name. Ask their name, and if they tell you "Candy" or something, tell them you don't talk to liars, and ask for their real name. If they don't comply, tell them to go away and come back when they can be real with you. Usually they won't come back. Sometimes they will. Sometimes they get really offended and comply because of fear of rejection.

5. Dress nice. This may seem unimportant in a strip club, but when you dress nice they think you make money.. They will ask you what you do. Tell them it's a secret. If they persist, tell them you live with your mom and deliver pizzas. I have had success with this.. The girl laughed and said "You don't dress like that delivering pizzas".. I said I stole the cloths from Marshalls. She slapped my shoulder and laughed harder and called me a liar, and kept on asking me. This girl hung on me all night.. This is when I moved on to other girls, which made her crazy.

6. Make friends with the DJ and the Bartender. Become an insider. Not so much that you are involved with any sort of drama.. Just know people. There's a certain club I go to where I talk to the same girl for 45 minutes to an hour every time I go. The fact that she sits and talks to me and gives me hugs and a kiss on the cheek every time I go makes the other girls interested.

7. Body language, eye contact, and confidence is just as important here (if not more so) than in any other sort of gaming. Walk around like you own the place. Be polite. Mysterious. But be confident.

8. If you manage to get a girl to sit with you and act interested in you while she has absolutely no hopes of getting money from you... when she tells you her real name and drops the stripper facade and begins acting like a real person, that's when you ask her what she's doing after work, and either # close or F-close, depending on what you want/need. Personally I do not feel strippers have relationship potential... but they can be fun for a short time. Don't ask strippers for anything.

The line above about "I don't start what I am not going to finish" is great.

A similar line I've used is, "I don't go to a buffet where I can't eat."

My buddy C has this shit down to a science. We don't go to strip clubs to get lap dances, we go for #'s.