Ive known this girl since high school who currently resides in california. Now ive flirted/shamelessly hit on this girl. Made it blatently clear that I find her attractive and she's flirted with me. But im still in the friend zone and i got the impression from the last time ive talked to her she didnt get the idea that I am interested in her.

So since im already in the abyss,should I just full on admit that im interested or just cut my loses and stop chasing the windmill as it were? For the record,i have been/currently am pursuing other prospects......I just thought this one was actually feasable.

I admit to still being an AFC,so be kind in responding please.

A few options.

1) you invite her out to go to a bar/club the next time you go with friends, which is where you dance with her and blatantly make you move ("how would you feel if I kissed you right now?")

2) you straight on tell her without apologies that you think shes hot and she's just too sexy for you to be around to not screw her (be prepared to lose her)

3) forget about her and move on. This could turn into oneitis.

4) stay in the friendzone and use her as a win/let her introduce you to her hot friends.

Nice reference to Don Quixote btw.

Don't tell her you are interested in her. Women don't respond to words and logical explanations like that and are more likely to be turned off by your lack of self-control.

Wait or engineer the right moment to make your move and kiss her. how she responds is the only way you will know how she feels about you.

1st of all, get her out alone with you, if this is impossible and she keeps flaking you, then forget about her

2nd of all, test compliance and go for a kiss, don't know how?
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^ this is a more detailed guide to what I am suggesting, but it can be simplified as this

when you meet her, give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek, tell her it's been so long, if she dis-allows this, then she is non compliant, if she is fine with this, good sign

now, if she is compliant, next thing you do is isolate her somewhere that you can get close to her and put your arm around her, talk for a bit with your arm around her, if she is comfortable with this... all good, go for a kiss, there is no right time, just do it when you want to

keep it short and sweet, no tounge, look into her eyes and look at her lips, go in slow, save making out for her for a more private place where you can have sex with her

now, if she complies with that, invite her back to a place where you can have sex, give her a reason to go there besides sex, like, poker, or a movie, or a drink, or to check out that cool song/video that you want to show her and she just has to see, as long as she is older then 16 and not a retard, she knows the deal (even if she pretends otherwise to maintain her non-slutty image)

if she comes back to your place, sit her down, kiss her again sooner rather then later, start making out with her, start lightly moving your hands over her body, start getting more and more gropy and sexual with where you are touching gradually and as you make out with her, start removing pieces of your clothing one at a time, give her time to heat up so she is nice and wet, after a good 10-15 minutes of making out, start playing with her ass, move the cheeks around, if she's all good with that, just start rubbing her puss, she's all good with that?, then finger her, she's all good with that? then tell her to ''bend over, I wanna see'', or say ''hey just put your face down and your ass up, I wanna see'' if she complies with that, put your penis inside her and start pumping, or you could use the whole mystery method thing and say, ''do you want me inside of you?'', either way it doesn't really matter, if you can finger bang her the chances of you not getting laid are pretty slim

and for trouble shooting look up posts that handle topics related to LMR

if you can't reach compliance with a kiss, she is not interested in you, cut your losses and move on to a different girl, if you can reach compliance for a kiss but she starts flaking on you in a repetative pattern, move on to a different girl and forget her, if she flakes to begin with, forget about her and move on to a different girl

GOOD LUCK

Thanks man

Update: after liking a photo on Facebook,she tells me in a comment that she's going to be in NYC this weekend(live in New York FYI) and now I'm quoting "can I see you,please?" Haven't responded yet.

Thoughts?

I say take the initiative. I learned the hard way when I didn't. I was too scared and eventually lost her to another guy. The initiative. Be like sure, and take her out somewhere nice.i mean, it already sounds like she's into you, so DHV doesn't have to be done on the first date. Just keep in mind this one thing: escalation. I've been learning about it and think Russel Brand is a genius at it. But don't forget that he can do it faster than we can because of his status. Start with light touches: a high five, then touching her on the arm lightly, on the hand, then make your way to other areas; the leg. Just enjoy YOURSELF and don't overthink.

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Update: The weekend came and left,didn't hear from her at all. Now to be honest,i dont know what happened,could have been busy with something or whatever. But still.......It pisses me off that SHE wanted to see me and I didnt hear a fucking thing. To be further honest, I wasnt expecting anything to actually happen and still went out with my friends that weekend anyway. But im genuinely considering an "out of sight, out of mind approach" in the sense that removing her off facebook and my phone and plain and simple cutting my losses. Am I wrong to be pissed? Am I wrong with this approach?

Frustrated AFC willing to hear advice.