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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:47 pm 
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Hi Everyone,

I've been a long time reader, and after what happened to me tonight, decided that I simply have to use the vast knowledge that some of you hold.

The story is this - I don't consider myself a complete AFC. I believe that you only live once and as I've proven to myself, I have no problems to approach even the most beautiful woman in a club.

So that's exactly what happened to me tonight. I was with a friend of mine in a club, and saw a girl 10 feet from me or so, sitting while some guy was hitting on her friend. After seeing a few episodes of Simple Pickup on youtube, I've recently been trying to go as direct as those guys do.

So I walk over to her, and over her friend and that guy, say: "This is going to sound completely random, but I saw you from over there and I thought you were cute, so I had to come and introduce myself." I picked her up from her seat, and we sat down together on a couch nearby.

Now just let me describe this girl for you. If there was ever a perfect 10, she would be it. The nose of Kate Beckinsale, big beautiful blue eyes and a body to die for. Seriously, one of the most gorgeous women I've seen.

So we start talking - and I simply could not divert the conversation in any direction that would be semi-interesting. Boring as freakidy-fuck. I tried cold reading, making statements, making her qualify to me (by asking something like 'what's the most unadventurous thing you've done lately?') and simply nothing. I felt like I simply lack the experience to know how to do it right. We talked for over 30 mins about simply nothing. We ended the conversation with me asking for her number even though I knew it was already done for.

So my question is this - What can I do to assure this never happens to me again? Would you suggest making up some DHV stories to tell? negging her? (although I feel that throwing a neg after coming up direct is kinda weird) or anything else really?

I simply don't want to ever waste a perfect 10 again. I believe in learning from failure and seriously, right now (it's like 2:40am), I even feel bad for not failing with more girls tonight (maybe because I spent so much time talking to her about nothing - what do you do? yeah, that's interesting, why do you study that? oh. yeah. blah blah blah.)

Please say anything that you think will help - books to read, techniques to learn, anything really.

p.s - I would like to state that I really like the direct approach so I would like to get responses that amplify that method.

Thanks!

Divi

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:59 pm 
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Look around the environment, tell her that crazy story you have been telling your pals, talk to her friend, tease her a little. It's not that hard.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:23 am 
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So we start talking - and I simply could not divert the conversation in any direction that would be semi-interesting. Boring as freakidy-fuck. I tried cold reading, making statements, making her qualify to me (by asking something like 'what's the most unadventurous thing you've done lately?') and simply nothing. I felt like I simply lack the experience to know how to do it right. We talked for over 30 mins about simply nothing. We ended the conversation with me asking for her number even though I knew it was already done for.
you are placing too much value on her because of how she looks to you, you care too much, would you care if this was some 4/10 in your eyes?
how interesting a conversation is, will have less to do with the content, and more to do with the emotions being exchanged and the amount of rapport, expressing commonalities and feeding good emotions back and forth with create the rapport, if you put pressure on yourself and raise the bar too high for your idea of excelence, she will feel the same way as you do, it won't be good enough, after all... you are leading her, if you are having a great time talking about random stupid things with no substance and you think your time with her is awesome, as long as she is interested in being led, she will feel the same way as you do
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So my question is this - What can I do to assure this never happens to me again? Would you suggest making up some DHV stories to tell? negging her? (although I feel that throwing a neg after coming up direct is kinda weird) or anything else really?
this will happen to you again, just learn to be ok with that, stop being so needy for an outcome, and yes I do suggest getting better at socializing, putting more tools in the tool box to have fun with, but that's the main thing, if you are not having fun and you can't just let go of the ''I MUST FUCK HER OR THIS IS FAIL'' mindset, then it doesn't matter what tools you have, you will not be able to use them effectively, you just have to stop caring if you fuck her or not, and approach because you want to approach, not because you need sex
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I simply don't want to ever waste a perfect 10 again. I believe in learning from failure and seriously, right now (it's like 2:40am), I even feel bad for not failing with more girls tonight (maybe because I spent so much time talking to her about nothing - what do you do? yeah, that's interesting, why do you study that? oh. yeah. blah blah blah.)
you didn't waste a perfect 10, you approached her, but you wasted your time because you didn't enjoy it, you were too focused on getting something, instead of giving something and sharing an experience while making a connection with no expectations for an outcome, if you can just drop the outcome, you could actually enjoy yourself and try some shit that you haven't tried for fun, as long as you are ok with failing you can push yourself and do things you think are awesome, reguardless of what the girl thinks that is involved in your fun and you won't be that ''WHAT DO I SAY TO FUCK HER'' guy anymore

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Please say anything that you think will help - books to read, techniques to learn, anything really.
talk to more girls, the more you are intimidated the better, say and do things you haven't done before, the more that thing makes you shit your pants with fear, the more you should test out what happens as a result of that thing
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p.s - I would like to state that I really like the direct approach so I would like to get responses that amplify that method.
so express yourself then, being direct comes from within you, it's not some trick or gambit someone else can give you
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Thanks!

Divi
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