Good day!

I am new to this group and I would like to ask something.
I noticed that I am doing something completely wrong in my interaction with women.
I always approach women very enthusiastically because I am an enthusiastic guy and I have no problems with approaching them. But I just can't seem to make that hit.
That final trigger where women want to contact me.
I will give you an example.
A few weeks ago I was in Odessa which is a city in Ukraine. I went out to a club and I ordered a drink at the bar. Meanwhile I started talking to a girl and suddenly her girlfriend started talking to me. She putted her nice shiny nails in my arm and she pinched her fingers in my arms. Then I was having some small talk with her about her daily life. Later I talked to some of her girlfriends and suddenly she came back and pulled the small leaves out of my drink and putted into hers and she said, nice to meet you. So, for me it was obvious that she wanted to interact with me so I asked for her phone number and I asked if she could show me around in the city.
So she said sure, she gave me her phone number but I found out that this number she gave me was not hers
I am doing something that makes attraction totally disappear!

Another example I would like to give.
A few days later I went out again to this same club. I went to the dance floor and I saw a stunningly beautiful women dancing on the main stage (professional dancer)
She noticed that I was enjoying her moves and at some point she made eye contact with me. So I went up to her and gave her a friendly hi five.
From time to time she kept holding eye contact and I went up to her again!
She didn't ignore me but when I was asking her if I could give her a call, she lost all attraction. I didn't feel bad about it and I had a fantastic night at this club!
Thanks for your help.
Best regards from the Netherlands,
Wybejan Heringa
Pioneer PUA

how do you know this?

bad reactions happen man, there could be so many reasons, what if it's not you

imagine for a second, that first girl wanted to flirt with you, wanted to make out with you, wanted you to take her home

but here's the kicker, she had a boyfriend, she can't give you her phone number... what if her boyfriend finds out, she can't go on dates... what if her boyfriend finds out

now ^ this is just as likely as your theory now second instance, you didn't even talk to that girl or build compliance, you just got eye contact and you asked for her number?

that can even work, but just because it ''can'' work, doesn't mean it will work (and it's not a very effective strategy),

imagine for a second, this girl is out, she is just dancing having a good time, she sees a hot guy (you), and she is love struck, she starts checking him out, hot guy notices but... she knows she has orders from the peer group ''GIRLS NIGHT OUT, GIRLS!! NO BOYS ALLOWED'' (I know this sounds retarded but it's how girls are), now Jenny on the dance floor gets approach by hot guy, she's super excited inside, hurray HE CAME TO TALK TO ME, then he just gives her a high five and leaves, now shes like... hmm what was that, oh well back to dancing, then she keeps looking at him, wow that cute guy talked to me, then she clues in.... wait a minute, IT'S GIRLS NIGHT OUT, STACY SAID NO HO'IN AROUND , hot guy walks up again, just asks for a number, NOPE DENIED, IT'S GIRLS NIGHT OUT, STACY SAID NO IF I LET THIS GUY GET MY NUMBER, MY GIRLS WILL BE MAD AT ME, then she goes home and thinks about the cute guy that talked to her tonight, what a great night, that cute guy liked me.. hurray!!, if only it wasn't girls night out, could have got to know him better

this theory ^, just as likely, does it mean you couldn't flip shit around? no, probably possible, does it mean this is what actually happened? no, but it's just as likely and possible as your theory

you have to just stop over thinking this so much, and approach more girls, believe in yourself more, don't take this kind of thing personal, when something negative happens, approach another girl and make a positive situation for yourself, the reactions you get on a night out can be completely random, you don't know what is going on in these girls lives, they could have boyfriends, today could be the day that their boyfriend dumped them, today could be the day that their boss at work yelled at them and put them in a shitty mood, today could be a girls night out, today could be the night they are out looking to hookup the list goes on, give yourself more credit and stay consistent for a while and remain consistent with alot of different girls, if you notice a common pattern (this doesn't mean one thing happens with one girl...) then figure out what is creating this common pattern and how to mitigate the problem, instead of analyzing things like this

1 approach < game < bad reaction < reflect (conclusion I suck)

change this up

tons of approaches < game < good and bad reactions < reflect (conclusions approach is ok but can be improved)

or

tons of approaches < game < almost all bad reactions < reflect (conclusions this approach sucks balls how to improve)


go talk to more girls presenting consistent behavior, before you jump to conclusions such as ''I approached two girls, they didn't fuck me, I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG''

go approach 50 women, if all 50 don't sleep with you and give you a re-occurring negative reaction, your conclusion is more likely accurate, but 2 women is not a good sample size at all

GOOD LUCK