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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Hello all ,

Today was first day : Below my history of day.
Please suggest me to improve my game.

Approach :1
Two Set : Group was coming out of shopping center . I just halted them while they were walking . After just some time of talking , the person whom I was talking shut me down .

POINTS NOTED BY ME :
 Good confidant approach ,so good beginning .
 To much creepy . No voice control
 Freeze after speaking few words , too much nervousness while talking
 Not at all involved the second person
 Have relaxed mindset .
 Not tried enough hard to break ASD

Approach :2
Four set : Gruop was walking towards exit of mall , when i met them in centre area
• Group was walking towards me.
• Just opened with one person without any focus .
• Blown out by group by saying why are u asking this question to us .
• This was total disaster


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:40 am 
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I take it you were using some opinion based opener?

give the opener context... Help me settle this debate I was having with a friend... then they will know why you are asking it.

Seems you have a good list of things to work on!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:28 pm 
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Day 2:

I was so nervous .. I don't know why ....

I went to mall and never got off my bike ..I was so chocked in my mind ..I just didn't do anything .
I went to mall , freeze ,s o just came back. Pure waste of time and money .

Can some one tell how to avoid this mental state of freeze ?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:29 pm 
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I take it you were using some opinion based opener?

give the opener context... Help me settle this debate I was having with a friend... then they will know why you are asking it.

Seems you have a good list of things to work on!

goodluck
Yes Trajan21 I had opinion opener .

Can actually someone tell how to have a delivery of opinion opener ?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:12 pm 
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I honestly don't think you should open 4-sets without a wing during day.

I personally don't do it. I only open on 2 sets or single girls if I'm solo.

And when you open on 2 sets, it is out of huge importance that you involve both girls in the conversation. Otherwise, game over.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:59 pm 
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I honestly don't think you should open 4-sets without a wing during day.

I personally don't do it. I only open on 2 sets or single girls if I'm solo.

And when you open on 2 sets, it is out of huge importance that you involve both girls in the conversation. Otherwise, game over.
But How to involve both person , i mean when I m saying my opener , I am telling it by looking at one person only ?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:22 pm 
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I'm starting out too. Hope this doesn't happen to me. I think I'll try self-hypnosis if I get rejected the first time to up my confidence on the second time.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:51 pm 
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rahulsingh: Involving both people is as easy as looking at them. Since you have to show your confidence (not act it out) you usually need to do most of the talking. So all you have to do is look at one for a few seconds, then look at the other and just keep going back and forth while you talk. When they respond, focus on the person whose speaking. This last sentence is a general rule, and rules are meant to be broken. Nothing wrong with looking at the one who isn't talking and jokingly role your eyes or pretend to yawn if the girl talking is saying something you don't agree with or find interesting. Just an example. Remember, eye contact is key. Don look down or away as you talk. Glancing is no problem, but don focus on the ground or your surroundings. Your attention should primarily be with your audience.

myth00: I can't say anything about self-hypnosis cuz I've never tried it but I don think you need to do anything like that just yet. Have you tried other things before? If you're having trouble with confidence, it might sound cheesy but, sit down and think of all the things you're good at. Forget the words, "I can't" and "I'm not good enough." Because you CAN and you ARE good enough. Really. I'm not just saying that to make you feel good. Because this is something a lot of us have felt before. But, as is often the case, I bet your self-esteem isn't as low as you think it is.
Why do you have low self-esteem if you don mind me asking? Like I said, a lot of us have had it at one point or another, even Mystery and Style did. But look at them now. I went through a long period of low self-esteem (about 7 years) which I've almost completely gotten out of. I had it because I never thought of myself as attractive or successful because I constantly compared myself to others. It also didn't help that nobody believed me when I told them my background (Bahamian and Welsh) because of the colour of my skin. This made me question myself and who I really was and all that fun stuff which was a waste of time and prevented me from enjoying life as much as I could have.
Things will get better. I promise. Keep your head up young lion


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:34 pm 
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Day 3: Complete Loss

Today I went to go in mall.

1) I found few sets from distinct eye

2) I was totally freaked out.

3) I couldn't talk to even a single person ..

4) I was so nervous . I am forgetting how to counter AA.

5) I don't know other places than mall to meet women, some one suggest please.

I seek community to help in below areas:

1) How to counter AA, currently I feel like total looser.
2) How to have proper mindset about game.
3)Good places to meet women .


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:56 pm 
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DAY 4:
Not had much of time as I had to work as well.

Decide to go to mall after work .

As AA was my issue ....here is what I did:

Before going out .. I read inspirational material ..

So this is how all spanned after words:

As on the way .... I was going on my Bike ..I saw two set going on their bike ,I approached them , yes I did finally after 3 days :

Me : Do u know where fruit juice shop ?
she: Ya but its not in this area .
Me: then where is it ?
She:Its in near by area.
Me: Can u tell what is exact name of place..
She:Its called blah blah ...
(Now here is what now as I review my conversation I found made a big mistake, She was about to speak something and suddenly )
Me: Oh thanks dear ..And I left off.
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I know I should have tried holding on conversation .

My mistake:
1) I was my be to content of just opening ... was to much on seventh sky that I just cut down conversation .
2)May be Inside i knew I didn't had knowledge of transition . So I exited from conversation.

I hope some is listening to my problems in community.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:38 pm 
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DAY 5:

I must today i had no plan to go for sarging ...YET TODAY IS BEST DAY IN MY DATING HISTORY .

I was at mall , waiting for friend . He got stuck in traffic and got late .

So I though let spare this idle time in good thing..

I saw two set walking pass me .

I Immediately approached them by opinion opener.

Its what happened after that is still like a dream for me.

Those girls went shop to shop for my helping me.

One of them even tried one of the dress.

It was fun for 30 mins. They were totally into me .

I had number of opportunities where I could get number close.

But it was too much for me.. I freaked out .. as I had no idea how to ask number in generous way.

This freaking out ruined my shot a number close ... I did mange to ask number after kind chasing them(To lame i know .. but I had freaked out ).

They didn't give number.. ..

Summary of Mistakes:
1) I was no really knowing how to have transition .
2) I was not knowing how to number close properly .
3) I lost many opportunities to number close which were presented literally in my Dish.

All I can Say today was Dream day , only small glitch is fairy tale has no perfect ending.

Hope more sceneres support me .. and guide me


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:31 pm 
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From what I have read, it seems to me your very very nervous about the responses. And when you are talking to someone your not very comfortable. If you feel this is the case then I have some possible solutions for you that I know worked for me.

1: Read 60 years of challenge, it personally helped me get over a lot of my fears of talking to others and approaching ect by simply getting the right mind-frame.

2: until you get confidence of talking to people and not caring about the reaction you get try saying something you know is either going to get an odd look from them or a laugh depending on type of person they are, eg "My name is marvin the martian, what is your favourite flavour bowling bowl?" (cant think where I got this from but its a playful opener), whatever you come up with just remember to have a playful smile on your face regardless of how you feel.

3: maybe dont start with day game, again for me I found night game easier to get into the swing of it because I feel more comfortable chatting to people in a nightclub rather than in a shopping center during the day, find a public place you feel more comfortable chatting to people.

These might work for you, they might not but anything is worth a try first time right?

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I had a pitbull. If new people came over and acted confident or ignored him, he was fine. But if they acted afraid he would just start growling. The more scared they got, the more he growled and became more aggressive.

Women are the same way. If you act confident, like there's nothing wrong with what you're doing, the interaction will usually go well. If you come across as nervous, they'll eat your ass alive on the spot.

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First of i will say i LOVE the courage and the confidence to approach a group on your first day out. That says a lot. You should be proud and encouraged. I know i am.

Now, the fact that you attempted to approach a group during day game being your FIRST time out was like a David and Goliath situation. Clearly we know who Goliath was, and you were David with a slingshot but you didn't have any pebbles to sling. Ha. Funny analogy but its true.

I do think you are doing the right thing by going out by yourself right now during the day. You should continue too. This builds CORE confidence and not confidence built of trying to impress a wing or having someone to push you into sets. Going out by yourself build core confidence and slowly teaches you how to swallow the AA and approach. What happens when you are alone without your wing, people are around and you see a stunning 10 you want to approach. More than likely you wont do it, or it will be extremely tough due to being worried about people watching, getting blown out and everyone seeing it without having a wing to let you lean on his shoulder if it goes that bad. In other words i think you are doing the right thing by going out alone for now. Grab a wing later.

That is how i started in Day Game, and i can honestly say it has seperated me from the rest and taken my confidence and overall game to a new level. Keep that up. You will meet tons of QUALITY women during the day time. Ones you probably wont meet in a club. Day game is probably where you will find a amazing girl to start a successful relationship with. Not saying you wont find this at a bar at or club because its possible, but the odds are less. You have more chances in day game. Yeah during the day appears harder because of one main reason...EVERYONE IS SOBER. Youll realize guys will be watching you when you approach a attractive women everyone is staring at. They will actually be rooting you on. I had one guy dap me up after a interaction with a hottie one day. It was pretty cool. People will look for a second because its amazing you have the courage and ability to do it. Most don't. They wont pay you to much attention though, they will be focused on getting where they are going or other life things.

Now to the good stuff. During your first approaches i recommend not going up to 2 or 3 sets just YET. Start off small. You are already leaning over the egde of your old comfort and security zone, but don't lean to far, or you might fall off. And thats what happened with those two sets. Start off with women by their selves. Open with some opinion openers until you get the confidence to be able to deliver solid direct openers and then transition. ALWAYS know where you are going with a conversation. Never ask a question or make a statement without knowing where you are going. This leads to awkward pauses and dead ends. Approach with some opinion openers, or direction openers "Can you tell me where the nearest starbucks is?" or any other indirect openers. Then gradually start building conversation. "Thanks for your opinion. Before i go i have to tell you, i really like your style. its unique. Different than most girls ive seen around here." Or anything like this, then introduce your self and transition.

Anyway check out my blog if you want more detailed tips on day game.

KEEP PUSHING AGAINST THE EDGE!

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Hi. Good going Rahul. I'm not sure where you from but if you are in India and doing day game just a word of advice. Kino escalation should be slower and more subtle with indian women. Also sets with Indian women would normally last longer with a greater emphasis on comfort building. Building initial attraction with conservative women is easier but its more important to establish comfort ( or else you might not # close). Just my 2 cents worth. All the best


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