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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:34 am 
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I am going to translate a book of a Chinese PUA who became a PUA before reading the MM stuff.

I've read and watched MM, 60 years, sasha, simple pickup, etc. Finally, I was told this Chinese PUA stuff by a new student. I think it is the best pick up thing ever! You may find this is similar to direct game and natural game, but it is different.

I'm doing several approaches in day game every week now.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:59 am 
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Why Pickup?

I often imagine myself living in different kinds of constraints.

If one of them can be concurred, it will be surly a nice experience. For example, breaking away from gravity and being invisible, etc. Pickup is getting rid of the social circle constraint; its charm is abnormal in this social custom. If one day every one can talk to strangers casually, I might get tired of social.

Whenever a beautiful woman walks past, the desire rises and at the same time I also feel I am in a prison. If I went with her to strike up a conversation, will I be arrested? Not, will I be fined? Will I be laughed at? Not necessarily. But I just felt a force to deter myself, which is the heart of the tall prison. When I realize this every time, I have an unknown fury. I feel that I am not myself, but something under social norm. In fact, if I said "HI" out, the prison would fall apart. That is so simple; that is so not easy. It must be a purely "HI", it can also be translated into other Chinese, but it should not be evasive, secretive. It is to let the girl know exactly that I am stringking up a conversation, not asking the way, not something else. The so-called wonderful openings are crap. The more honest, the more to show your courage. The more simple, the more the performance of your natural. The so-called brilliant open without courage and natural, in fact, is another kind of begging.


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After a lot of practice, I found that same talks and same situations have completely different results, so I do not care the so-called openers and the so-called skills. If you have the effort to summarize, you should rather use this effort to approach more. In fact, no matter how you study the theory, the success rate is in the range of 1%. It is more meaningful if the base increases.

Sometime this idea emerges: if you have the effort of picking up in the street, why not use this effort to make more money. Success will naturally attract beautiful girls. This is the original thinking of clients. I admit that it does exist in my collective unconscious. But I am not willing to accept. Maybe when I was old, was no longer a healthy and vigorous man, I might consider to do this, but now, no way!


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are you using Google or babelfish translate? That isn't going to work, better practice your mandarin or Cantonese and get serious.


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Pickup: an art of meeting strangers

Traditional interpersonal communication is carried out in the community, neighbors, classmates, colleagues, circle of friends and circle of business, etc.

Pickup is the product of the development of urban civilization in a certain stage.
I often think I live in a more than ten million population city. I have more than one million young girls passing by in a year. Genghis Khan did not have this good fortune. If I do not strike up a conversation, what should I do?
However, the more out of the social circle, in fact, the more we need to respect personal space.
The behavior of pickup acrosses the barrier of community relations, but it does not cross all the constraints. Community life is like a train, a ship. We have been assigned in a steadily compartment, a cabin. However, pickup is ourselves to drive a car.
Since the driver, of course, we need to understand the traffic rules.
I often imagine the girl on the street is in a glass, it is their personal space.
Pickup, the first thing to do is gently knock on the door, and tell the girl my intention and my identity.


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are you using Google or babelfish translate? That isn't going to work, better practice your mandarin or Cantonese and get serious.
I'm a Chinese studying in US. I am using google to translate into English, and then I make some revisions.


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In this sense, "I want to know you” and “leave a contact number" are essentially different. I think the cell phone number belongs to a relatively high level of security of personal information only, and it is only necessary to exchange numbers when girls are willing to exchange.
So "I want to know you" is to show intention and to establish a clear direction in the following conversation (I'm not selling insurance); "leave a contact number" is the result after talking to each other and feeling pretty good. Without this process, then, strike up a conversation became "seek" number and the guys who make approaches would be a little discriminated.


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I think I have showed his method.

He is still teaching clients in Beijing. Every weekend, the teacher, former students and new students go to shopping malls to pick up. This is different from the Western style which only has two or three days boot camp and no follow-up.

His name is Mo Gui which means evil.


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I really enjoyed what I read. I'd be glad if you translated some more.


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I really enjoyed what I read. I'd be glad if you translated some more.
Thank you. I will translate when I have time. This book is written several years ago and can be downloaded everywhere. It dose not have a price. It is free. There is no copy right issue.


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For example, in the infield activities, a student made a shot.
Student: "Hello, I would like to know you ..."
HB: "OK......" (student looked good, the girl was also outgoing.)
Student: "Then can you tell me your number ..." (very wrong, rude behavior)
HB: "a…..Why do not you write down my QQ (like MSN)." (immediately disappointed and gave the student a step to withdrawal)

The Evil teacher Comment: At least introducing yourself, or you can even propose to the coffee shop and sit for a while when the girl said "OK".
Although sometimes directly asking phone number can also get the number, but only due to three possibilities:
a. you are very handsome
b. girl is too kind
c. girl wants to get rid of you
Similarly, if asking to leave a contact number requires process, coming and saying "Can we be friends? " is even more abrupt.
Think about it and you will know making friends should be after some understanding; “Taoyuan trio” is the story of ancient books. If you strike up a conversation like this, it is really too "old fashioned".


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So, striking up a conversation is not so much a skill, it is more a courtesy (or rule) - courtesy (or rule) in dealings with strangers.
For example: when you approached a girl who carries some heavy bags, should you help her to carry these things?
The correct way: You can request, but mention only once. If she refused, do not dwell on this issue. You are an approacher, not a living Lei Feng (who offered a lot of help decades ago). Even if it is helping others, you should get other's permission first .


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Another example: after a few minutes of chatting, HB said she would go to take bus, most approachers started to ask numbers and then saying goodbye.
The right way: you can propose to escort (go with) the HB to the station. Also just mention once. If HB did not explicitly rejected, you could try more times. However, if they said "no", do not adhere to it. Based on actual experiences, more than 90% of the HBs would not reject.

Listening between the lines (understand the underlying meaning) is what environment teaches us, but that is the method dealing with acquaintance. Talking with strangers, in fact, is not that complicated.


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I think the fact that Chinese people are not good at approaching (striking up a conversation or pickup) is related to the strict community experiences. Once upon a time, even love and marriage are under the umbrella of parents and leaders. Organization provides all the security and personal space is being diluted in the collective social life.
Therefore, once the interaction with a random stranger happens, most people become overwhelmed (at a loss). Because losing the shelter of the umbrella, individuals without personal space felt embarrassing and reckless.


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I really enjoyed what I read. I'd be glad if you translated some more.
Thank you. I will translate when I have time. This book is written several years ago and can be downloaded everywhere. It dose not have a price. It is free. There is no copy right issue.
I don't speak chinese)))


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