Can the 60yoc get you into a relationship with a girl?

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60 Years of Challenge is more for same night lays than anything else. It emphasizes action and down plays talking, he emphasizes moving on quickly once you realize a girl is a time waster. Of course a relationship may develop with a woman off of it, but it is definitely not the best system for finding a girl to date.

If you want to find a woman to date you'd want to build attraction, a connection, and then sexual tension, rather than just going for the sexual tension. 60 YOC preaches sexual tension to build attraction, if you want to date girl you'd want to become attractive and then build sexual tension.

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NO! only you can get into a relationship with a girl, no product will get you a relationship... The problem with guys is they settle with the first girl that comes along, the key is to start as friends with benefits(fuck buddies) get to know her and transition to a relationship...And this can be achieve with 60 yoc, worry about fucking the girl first, worry about relationship later...My style is similar to 60 and i will put it to you this way, i have never been single for more than 3 months, in the last 20 years...Just transition from fuck buddy by spending more time together, doing more activities etc... now going from girlfriend to fuckbuddy is almost impossible. Most women are wierd to be in relationships(deep inside they want one), even the whores(which is usually a stage in the women life) eventually want a relationship. Again your focus should be in getting laid(after 3 times) usually if you do not really suck in bed, they eventually get attach and want one anyways...

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Is there any possibilities to why 60YOC wouldnt work because i went in the city today ( ihavent had a wank in three days plus id just got out of the gymm i was feeling cocky as fuck) I went in the city on my own and Tryed the whole making eye contact just holding it slowing down and no matter how long i held they would turn away and then keep walking...

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The post from skills is so accurate the following snippet should be printed out and stuck above your PC.

Worry about fucking the girl first, worry about relationship later.

Just transition from fuck buddy by spending more time together, doing more activities etc.

Your focus should be in getting laid (after 3 times) usually if you do not really suck in bed, they eventually get attached.

so what do you want them to do, keep holding eye contact and come up to you and fuck you or ask you to be the boyfriend, come on dude... Re-read 60 yoc please, you still have to approach and you still have to introduce yourself, and do the work...Back to the relationship one more point i forgot, the hard part is not getting a relationship anybody with minimal to 0 skills can get a relationship, the hard part is keeping the relationship...

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I dont actually own the 60 years of challenge i just heard about what other people have told me, secondly I realise i panzied out because when i hold the eye contact i forget what i was going to say... ill retry it tomorrow

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I am weird Skills I consider the fuck buddy and friends with benefits two very different things. I've had both and the difference is this for ME:

A fuck buddy is someone I don't hang out with, I fuck them and that is it, call them late at night. It's about nothing more that straight sex for 2 people who are at moments in there life that can't have a relationships.

Friends with benefits are legitimate friends that you hook up with here and there. FWB are more complicated and not the route I like to go because when you like someone as a person and there is a sexual attraction there is inevitable future of dating. If I'm going to date a girl that is cool but I'm going to just date her, I'm not going to try and be friends with a sexual attraction and an attraction to them as a person.

If I start out fucking a girl and am hanging out with her that to me is dating...I don't spend time with women(if I'm having sex with them) unless I am dating them. If I'm fucking them I just come over at odd hours, and leave after. I don't come over to watch a movie, everything is open, and the action is honest. I'm not an asshole, everything is about good sex and they enjoy it immensely which is why I always have those invitations.

Mind you I don't date women really, I just: Get in, Get out, get on my way. No sense complicating it and I tend to keep it simple with honesty. I've learned to build fuck buddy relationships (wrote two blogs on fuck buddies: keeping and getting them) but you need the "proper personnel" for the job. Most people(men too) can't handle a sex only relationship, too much emotion gets attached to sex.

Just a thought....

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^ yea that is right! I concur same experiences, but what i am suggested is doing what is boldface in your post... I really do believe that if you go out with a girl with the goal to have her as a gf will fuck up the whole thing in some cases, having sex with her and then getting to know her and hanging out best bet imo

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Not true at all. With attraction builds sexual tension. In fact, the sexual tension is there from the beginning, it's just a matter of not screwing things up. Also, he says escalating, not reacting negatively to her resistance, and persistence are 3 ingredients to building attraction (whether you want the girl or just a lay). His whole thing is escalating sexually, and doing so fast.

With 60s' 'system', the whole idea is that the sooner you fuck her (a woman's sexuality is her most powerful bargaining chip to get what she wants), it'll lower her resistance and she'll be more apt to develop a relationship with you to justify that doing so was the 'right' decision. I like his stuff, its one of the most direct approaches, certainly a lot more affective than most of the trash out there.

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I'd strongly disagree with this. Attraction doesn't always build sexual tension (not correct to state it factually like this), if you were attractive then you would build sexual tension with every women we come across and obviously that is not true.... A guy can be attractive to a woman physically and still not be sexually attractive to her, sounds weird but it is still true.

Relationships are about building a connection, you don't date a woman unless you feel a connection with them. You don't build a connection if you don't talk to them, you do realize 60 yoc doesn't believe in really conversation right? It's all about physical escalation. Talking builds a connection and attraction, this is the center of dating.

I believe he also states in his material that he uses Sexual tension to build attraction because the attraction is already there if I remember correctly.

I love 60 YOC, I'm not against his style at all. In fact I think everyone should read his shit but I also think that it is what it is and that is not a system for dating girls (again I believe he mentions somewhere that it is more about same night lays then anything else). Every man should learn and understand building sexual tension.

I am all about nailing the girl the first night, but the conversation is the difference between me caring to call her back or just leave after I'm done. So if you want to date a girl I think 60 YOC is the wrong route to find a girl friend. 60 YOC is about avoiding the connection, and building attraction through sexual tension. A connection is not an inevitable part of sex, or hooking up, if you want to date a woman I still feel it's a horrible concept to just physically escalate.

When it comes to dating you want to build attraction, but you want her to be attracted to you, not the sexual tension or the moment there really is a LARGE difference. If you want to be attractive to a woman for dating purpose you want her to be attracted to YOU.

Building a connection is essential to the "interview process"(selecting a mate) when it comes to dating and seeing as how 60 YOC avoids the connection because it can be a time waster it's hard for me to think much of using 60 YOC to find a girlfriend. If you combine 60 YOC with other connecting I'm for it but not just walking up to physical escalation.

Just my thoughts on it...

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I agree that tension exists between men and women regardless but in my own experiences (perhaps through my own perception of the experience admittedly) there is a positive tension and negative tension. There is also an understanding that sometimes a man can come on too strong and she can't handle the tension and nor can anything happen because the tension for you and the moment are improper.

I am very big on gauging the situation circumstances and current attraction and advancing which area needs advancement but I'm very much on the side of being the attractive male and just sending signs out to attractive women. When I get responses it's easier to capitalize, you learn to build attraction by eye contact and body language and capitalize on the opportunities you wish to.

If the women can't handle the tension that doesn't mean you get laid. It doesn't at all mean you get laid, in fact you can just as easily be scaring the fuck out of her by going to direct. This is why I say 60 YOC is bad for relationship hunting, you are hurting yourself in a lot of ways because you never really gauge the situation, you aren't being a properly responsive man, you are being over responsive.

A woman needs to feel a connection to a man too. You seem to be self-centered in thought on this, a woman won't go into much of anything if she doesn't feel connected on some level. If you have no connection, you'll likely have no relationship. Women are far more intuitive then men, so if they don't feel you are connected they won't be in a relationship with you.

Talking does help build a connection touch, eye contact, all are just as important or more in building a connection. I've studied all of it but in a relationship you must communicate, is this really that hard to figure out? Do I really have to tell you that you have to talk and build rapport through hobbies, interests, etc.? Do you want to date a woman you can't stand going to shit? Really? She's got big tits but hates everything about me so I'll just stay with her big tits. Not really a good lesson for younger guys if you see what I'm saying here, why settle for stupid with nothing in common with big tits when you can find hot big tits with tons in common and an intellect?

Sorry but as I said you need to put them through the "interview process" just as much as she needs to put you. If you want a girlfriend don't go for one just because she is sexy physically, the girl better have more to offer or you'll just be really annoyed with her. At the same time if you can't connect with her on a level do you really want to date the girl? Honestly?

I suppose what I'm saying is if you are looking for a girlfriend you can still fuck the girl same night but you might want to pre-screen with some talking and bull shitting to see if you actually would care to pursue a relationship with someone like that. I am not at all against fucking her same night, but if you want a relationship with a chick shouldn't you see whether she is worth investing time on before wasting a night with one with dozens of others at hand you can interview for the job?

I brought up attraction because if you end up in a relationship with someone there should always be a mutual attraction for each other. I mentioned this because it is very important that you are attracted to each other not each other's tactics. If you guys don't find each other attractive to be around why would you want to be in a relationship with them?

It's not all about looks bro, looks aren't the only thing a guy looking for a girlfriend is after. You should give him a better shot at finding him a good girlfriend for him rather than fucking countless crazies until he finds a cool one (or hopefully he gets lucky and finds a cool one first lay).

Just my thoughts based off of experience and understand human natural behavior.

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