Alright, so I met this girl on a dating site and SPAM with her for like 4 hours last night. I ended up asking her out to dinner before I got off. So, we had dinner, got coffee, and then walked a bit and sat in a park. The first two parts of the date were going great. Both of us were pretty full of energy and, she bought some dinner to bring home for her mother, (backup in case she didn't want to hangout anymore?) but, she insisted we do something more. Thing is, the park she wanted to go to was pretty far out of the way and I ended up driving a ways, though it was near where she left her car.

Anyways, once we got to the park conversation sort of slowed down and we were kind of searching for things to talk about. So, I offered we play slaps while we think of things since it would make it even more difficult to play and it was something to do.

Throughout the date I managed to tease her and build kino... at some point I did make a sort of inappropriate comment.. lol. And, she commented on it and said well, now you made it awkward and I just replied.. Yeah..

lmao, At that point in the date I was pretty tired though. So, I ended it with a few second hug and I could tell she was squeezing pretty hard. She went to leave and for some reason or another we sparked another conversation for a few minutes before I got in my car.

Thing is, without conversation it got a little awkward, but I want to build up to something more sexual, it's just that I didn't know how the fuck I should do so. Any tips, and, also, I said I'd call her some time tomorrow, but when is the best time to call after a first date?

You've already had your first date with her. Its absolutely important that you evaluate what's the impression you left on her.

Did you act just friendly? Did you kino? Did you build up tension? Did you made your intentions clear (even if you met tru dating site), where you Good guy? or where you cocky n Funny? Did she give IOI's....

Many of this things relate to the way the following dates might be. For example, if you left things off too friendly, she might be expecting friendship, thus giving you a harder time to flip the script and turn sexual.

But it is always possible you just have to remember:

Have a strong, rock-solid frame: You like the girl and you want to K close or even better.. F close her! Remember to act on this. Talk on this, feel this and make her feel it! If she doesn't feel your sexually interested in her, she might start seeing you as her a sexual friend who's nice to hang out with... Want that? Ok, so keep your frame. She's the participant, shes the target, not you.

Talk: talk what you need to, if you don't she might not either and things will die. Practice talking,and if not possible for you to hold the conversation, move to some kino. TRY, there are many ways..

Relax: Be confortable with yourself man. Many awkwardness problems come from men not feeling good with themselves. Feeling insecure is a bitch, but you can relax, loosen yourself and not give a fuck about consequences...

Have a confident touch: Touching a woman is not rape. Do not be afraid of the outcome of being touchy. She might like it more than you think, and If she doesn't maybe, just maybe, its not the right time. (but the right time may come later) Be a man that's sure of his touch, do not hesitate, do not let your hand shake or she'll feel you as insecure. Theres no problem with giving hugs, or letting her hug you. Use a gambit to get hugd or to hug her, moxy!
Note: If you become too persistant and shes not into your touch, you may find yourself facing justice in no time. IF she does say NO its NO then. Learn to know when she Means NO.

Do not hesitate when you feel it's time: If you feel tension enough for K close and the vibe is right, do not hesitate for one second, do not be afraid of rejection. SHe might like it, she might not (learned this the hard way and got this same advice).
There's usually a perfect momento for K close, you have to know it and take it.

Call her 2 o 3 days after 1st date, I usually do around 4pm (after lunch, work break-time, after school, etc... Think that is a good time personally) I wouldnt call her the following day. When you call her, just talk to her, like on a normal conversation. Do not rush to invite her for next date (unless shes bussy and cannot talk much on the phone, do invite her).. Keep things light, talk like a renewed person you are. Let her know that she Can have a good time. If she cant make it or doesnt want to do not worry, there are other fish in the sea.

All this is advice that I've been given cuz I've had a situation in which I fucked up. Im just passin on the advice that I personally think applies in your situation. At the same time, re-reading and posting those bits of info, i feel like Im helping myself

Good luck

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Hello, I'm very new to PUA but have experience with dating 10+ somewhat women. I'm not a player, and NO I am not excellent at ONS. BUT I offer you my observations.
This is a bad sign. You should never run out of things to say. Listen carefully to her details and ask genuine questions. If she's interested, she'd be pleased to answer questions and ask questions herself.

The first thing to do is to build up a common connection. It can be a hobby such as cooking, snowboarding, reading etc.... If you haven't made this common connection, you WILL run out of things to say, and start boring her. Make names for your little connections. Invent new words and inside jokes that only the two of you would understand. This will bring you two closer to an intimate level.
I personally think this is a blatant way of saying, hey I ran out of things to do. Let's do something random to kill the awkwardness...
What was the inappropriate comment? She should have been more attentive of her details enough to know what is appropriate to say and not to say.
This is a bad sign but don't lose hope. As you have not specified any detailed I cannot give further analysis.
I personally believe that any girl for just a sexual daliance is NOT worth it. Most HB9/10s will not put out on the 1st night. You have to pursure her. You have to invest and dedicate whilst holding your dignity down. If you want a quick fuck, spend more time making money and go get a prostitute is what I think. Again, go for a girl who you have an actual mental and emotion connection with, and reap the benefits of sex. It'll be much easier on her and you.

I say build a connection first, and then move on to something more sexual. You've met her on the web. Sex and and a little bit of perversion is expected in her part.


This depends. Does she want to play the text game? If she does, text her 2-3 days after the date. Did you guys click to the extent of passion? Call her the next day.

There was definitely a lot of kino going on from both sides. Half the time I was making her laugh, she called me crazy at one point, reminded me that I was being cocky, and I reminded her that it was just confidence. lol. Problem was, I think we both sort of gabbed each others ears off. She likes to talk, and I like to talk, but at some point after the coffee and driving for 20 minutes, our energy sort of broke down, but for some reason we sparked it again just before we parted.

As far as tension goes, well, I think I made the mistake not steering the conversation towards something more sexual. I would think that is where the biggest flaw lied. I didn't feel 'justified' to make contact with her, so although I wanted to, I just couldn't think of a way to escalate it. At some point I was tickling her, but she was resisting and I was thinking wtf? shouldn't she be laughing or something? lol.

Ah, and although I said I'd call her the following day, should I just call her a couple days later anyways?