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I guess those understand comes with age. After dating several women around the age of 40-50 they really give me a better perspective. Hell, some of them even employ PUA techniques to get men. It's nice to be on the other side of the equation sometimes.
With that being said, it's exceptionally diffcult to convince myself that those women are truly happy. I've recently dated a 41 year old who have never been married and never had kids. She probably was in more relationships/PUA situation than most of us here and she was probably the last one person to want monogamous relationship, so we began our dance, sort of say, with agreement to not get attached.
However, when I met my current girlfriend, who is a university student slightly younger than me, and told the 41yo I had to leave, she was truly hurt. She had feeling for me and desire that I would never leave her. You would expect she to be the last person in the world to have that feeling toward a man, but no.
My point is, I have a feeling that this sort of goodbye is something that every mature PUA have to say to a woman, many times. As a mammal, I desire sex, but as a man, each time I have to say goodbye to a woman in that manner, my heart is ripped a little bit, and left me empty afterward. You can laugh at me for being a high and mighty SOB all you want, but some really do have this kind of aspirations, and for a man my age (I am speaking for all my brothers here), this struggle is real.
In deed, the very principal of Venusian art, perhaps seldom spelt out but often insinuated, is to mate with as many different women as possible, and for some of us, who are trying to cling to the last patch of ideal from his childhood, the ideal in sacracity of love, it's diffcult to put Venusian art in a fair light.
Also, on a curious note, many people I know are skilled users of Venusian art, although they never "sarge" and only use such knowledge to achieve better interpersonal connections and perhaps, finding long termed lovers. I wonder, what category would the community place them.
Venusian arts is just one technique among many around here. And is best suited for cold approaching strange women in a bar, or other similar context.
We also represent direct methods, the natural method, the indirect method, etc.. And of course long term relationships, of which I am a part.
Yes I understand what you mean. And I wish everyone could be in a mutually satisfying, long term relationship. Unfortunately everyone must start somewhere. And not everyone realizes the benefits of such a relationship. I think it would be a mistake to think everyone wants that as well. Our biology and our culture is often in conflict with it.
Not every PUA is simply looking for easy or casual sex. And not every regular Joe is looking for a long term religious based monogamous relationship.
Living in the bible belt I have my own problems with those that try to control the sexuality or the freedom of others in this regard.
Sure, there are plenty of older men and women that have failed at the relationship game, and its sad. But you wont find the solution here, or by stopping young people from trying.
Nope, some things are the responsibility of parents. And somethings are ironic here in this culture itself. That prevent or discourage healthy relationships. A lack of, or poor social and sexual education being one. We seek to rectify that.
But like I said everyone has to do the best they can until they find that special someone, if they ever do. A little empathy goes along way. So does discretion. So does education. How one uses such educational resources without actively harming others is their choice entirely. That's freedom in a nutshell. Otherwise we risk living in a Taliban like culture where a few control the many. And I'm sure you're not advocating that.
Beyond that, I wish you luck dealing with your problem. Like many things in this society, I suspect it will get much worse before it gets better. As many people are benefiting from all the confusion and heartache.
And most of them are politicians, large corporate interests, etc.. that have a monetary or political stake in the whole mess.
Us around here? Only trying to give guys the tools they need to socialize with members of the opposite sex.
After all, if tomorrow all women started preferring to date or have sex only with men that wore face paint, pretty soon half the population would be walking around wearing face paint. If you know what I mean.
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