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I hope its not too late, how do I come out of this? Advice?
At the moment you're basically this girl's bitch. You're running around after her and arranging your life around hers. Hammerofdawn is completely right; freeze her out for a few weeks so you can hook up with other girls, and don't be apologetic about it.

edit: And you said it's hard to ignore someone when you're connected to them in so many ways. The solution to that is to appear offline on facebook and your instant messenger so she can't see when you're online. Or, better yet, stop using them as much and do something productive.


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The only exit from this situation I can see for you is to GFTOW.And T stands for two,not ten.
Meanwhile keep in touch with her,but be VERY VERY busy.If there is nothing you can get busy with,than get a new hobby.Glue in the basement model planes and trains at least lol.
Thanks Broncobuster. I agree with you. I do have a FWB, maybe I'll spend some time with her. But you know, things have kinda escalated with this girl, we are almost in a relationship. She says she doesn't like it when I'm close with other woman. If we are going to get in a relationship, wouldn't sleeping with some else be considered cheating? Just thinking out loud.

Edit: And about "Glue in the basement model planes and trains", I already have a lot on my plate (work related), I would probably be busy for next 10 years.


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The way I see this is she kind of likes you but doesn't want you (she won’t commit to you), but your also too good for anyone else to come in and try take you away from her. She’s having her cake and eating it - That’s my synopsis.
I think you are absolutely right about this, especially "but your also too good for anyone else to come in and try take you away from her".

She's been through two bad relationships which really hurt her and I guess that's the reason she's been very cautious. To be honest, I'm not very desperate, so I will take things the way they come.
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I recommend you freeze her out for atleast a few weeks whilst you get your thoughts together and make a decision is this a person you are willing to let control your life and make you make rash decisions - Nobody should ever control you!
We've met everyday for last 10 days. If I freeze her out, she'll know for sure that I'm ignoring her. And if she feels like I'm pushing her away, maybe she'll really just go away. I was thinking maybe I'll talk less to her or talk only when she initiates the conversation, look less interested. Do you think this would work out?


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Thanks buddy. I've decided that I'm just going to concentrate on work for next couple of weeks. They really need me there.
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I hope its not too late, how do I come out of this? Advice?
At the moment you're basically this girl's bitch. You're running around after her and arranging your life around hers. Hammerofdawn is completely right; freeze her out for a few weeks so you can hook up with other girls, and don't be apologetic about it.

edit: And you said it's hard to ignore someone when you're connected to them in so many ways. The solution to that is to appear offline on facebook and your instant messenger so she can't see when you're online. Or, better yet, stop using them as much and do something productive.


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Update:

We went to a bar and later a club yesterday night, 5 couples. She was my +1.
At the bar, we were sitting next to each other, sometimes holding hands, sometimes me playing with her legs.

When we went to the club, she was not drinking as her doc had suggested. I got drunk really quick.

When it was time to dance, I danced with her for a while, but then I was also dancing really close with her rommie. Also, there's this girl I had a thing for, we were pretty close while dancing and I could see my girl was not happy about it.

Later when I was really drunk, I went to the counter with this "girl I had a thing for" and I was flirting with her for almost 30-40 mins and I was totally ignoring my girl. She was sitting behind us with couple of my friends. She looked pissed.

When we went home she said.
1. She doesn't like me when I'm drunk cause I have no control over myself.
2. She doesn't like it when I'm really close to other girls. (Lol who does?)
3. We have a lot of common friends and she doesn't want them thinking we are in a relationship, when we are not.

Both of us were tired. We kissed and cuddled for a while before going to sleep.

I know this is not going in the right direction. I have been thinking about the inputs you guys gave and I'm going to change my game plan according to that.

P.S: We were 10 of us and I spent some $500 for the party, is this above average for a birthday party?


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When we went home she said.
1. She doesn't like me when I'm drunk cause I have no control over myself.
2. She doesn't like it when I'm really close to other girls. (Lol who does?)
3. We have a lot of common friends and she doesn't want them thinking we are in a relationship, when we are not.
Don't know how useful this is going to be but personally my responses to her would have been

1. So? Im enjoying myself
2. Why should that bother you we are only friends?
3. But according to you we arn't so why are you acting like we are?

Then I would not have kissed/ cuddled with her, would have just gone off to bed alone, yes this would make her mad but at same time it sends clear message you wont play her game, when she realises its down to her if she looses you as more than just a friend that's when you will get her asking you for more than just being friends.

edit: wise man once said "its easier to seek forgiveness than ask for permission", I wouldn't even bother seeking forgiveness from her though.

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When we went home she said.
1. She doesn't like me when I'm drunk cause I have no control over myself.
2. She doesn't like it when I'm really close to other girls. (Lol who does?)
3. We have a lot of common friends and she doesn't want them thinking we are in a relationship, when we are not.

Both of us were tired. We kissed and cuddled for a while before going to sleep.
I think at this point you need to be a man and put your foot down; tell her that unless she wants to be in a relationship with you she has absolutely no right to tell you who you can and can't talk to. Kissing, cuddling and hand holding are things that people do when they're in a relationship - completely cut this out when you're with her and if she asks why then tell her exactly why; because she wants you to just be friends.


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Whoa, wait, hold your horses there partner! You want to propose to her to see if she is even really into you while she said you are just friends and you should enjoy the present?! :)

If you do that i guarantee you, you'll never see her again.
" You're craaazy!!" (in my Nacho libre voice) yeahh proposing wont do shit for that relationship but go down hill. keep her as a friend but not as a wife, if you get what im saying... keep soul searching and know what you want and you'll find you with time. but bumping into random women is a great tactic!


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When we went home she said.
1. She doesn't like me when I'm drunk cause I have no control over myself.
2. She doesn't like it when I'm really close to other girls. (Lol who does?)
3. We have a lot of common friends and she doesn't want them thinking we are in a relationship, when we are not.

Both of us were tired. We kissed and cuddled for a while before going to sleep.
I think at this point you need to be a man and put your foot down; tell her that unless she wants to be in a relationship with you she has absolutely no right to tell you who you can and can't talk to. Kissing, cuddling and hand holding are things that people do when they're in a relationship - completely cut this out when you're with her and if she asks why then tell her exactly why; because she wants you to just be friends.
I couldn't have said it better myself.

It's true, she has no right or power over you to tell you what you can and cannot do - So never give her reason to believe she has.

I'd call her out on her shit and tell her that she said you're not in a relationship so you can freely act as a person who isn't in a relationship.

Personally I'd keep doing that kind of stuff like flirting with other women in front of her, it will sink in for her soon enough - She just needs time to adjust.


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She got a job at my company and we would be seeing each other everyday. The bad part, she reports to me.

Actually, I helped her get this job because she really needed one. I was just being nice.

I fear that this might kill the attraction we have for each other.

There's no more freezing her out now.

Will you guys please tell me that I did not fuck this up.

I put a picture of me and this hot chick as my profile pic.
Her reply, "Wait. Is your profile picture of you and hot girl"?
Me: I look nice in it
Her: hmm. I like this one better (Picture of her and me together)
Me: Please don't tell me you are upset because of that.
Her: No


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Major development:

She got a job at my company and we would be seeing each other everyday. The bad part, she reports to me.

Actually, I helped her get this job because she really needed one. I was just being nice.

I fear that this might kill the attraction we have for each other.

There's no more freezing her out now.

Will you guys please tell me that I did not fuck this up.

I put a picture of me and this hot chick as my profile pic.
Her reply, "Wait. Is your profile picture of you and hot girl"?
Me: I look nice in it
Her: hmm. I like this one better (Picture of her and me together)
Me: Please don't tell me you are upset because of that.
Her: No
:!: :?: :?: :!:

Why would you ask her if she is upset with you posting a pic with another chick? That still means you give a shit about her opinion. The job is no problem, the fact that she is reporting to you is definitley not a problem but the weak spot you seem to have for her IS a major problem.

Instead of playing games why dont u just make your move and fuck her at this point?!
Tonyking it absolutely right.

I don't see why you still seek her validation about what she thinks of your actions, especially after we've all given you some sound advice on what you what you should do.
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you need to stand up for your own principals, whether this huffs or pleases them - They will respect you for it in the long run.
End of the day you made a decision to post that picture to provoke a reaction out of her (making her jealous), yet you still show this approval seeking behaviour over it - You gave her control over the interaction and you undermined yourself.

Stop jumping through her hoops!!!

Essentially you will be her boss in this new job of hers, what are you gonna do if she ever steps out of line? - Let her get away with it or bust her balls.

This same principal applies in your personal life.


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Essentially you will be her boss in this new job of hers, what are you gonna do if she ever steps out of line? - Let her get away with it or bust her balls.

This same principal applies in your personal life.
You are right.

I feel that if I continue making her jealous, ignore her, don't reply to her text, she might just go away. Out of sight, out of mind.


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We are not animals, I can't just go and fuck her. Its all about emotions with girls.
I was thinking maybe I'll continue playing my game, keep escalating and when its the right moment, nail her down.
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She got a job at my company and we would be seeing each other everyday. The bad part, she reports to me.

Actually, I helped her get this job because she really needed one. I was just being nice.

I fear that this might kill the attraction we have for each other.

There's no more freezing her out now.

Will you guys please tell me that I did not fuck this up.

I put a picture of me and this hot chick as my profile pic.
Her reply, "Wait. Is your profile picture of you and hot girl"?
Me: I look nice in it
Her: hmm. I like this one better (Picture of her and me together)
Me: Please don't tell me you are upset because of that.
Her: No
:!: :?: :?: :!:

Why would you ask her if she is upset with you posting a pic with another chick? That still means you give a shit about her opinion. The job is no problem, the fact that she is reporting to you is definitley not a problem but the weak spot you seem to have for her IS a major problem.

Instead of playing games why dont u just make your move and fuck her at this point?!


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Tony has given some of the best advice in this thread tbh..this thread has honestly been a hilarious read because honestly sylar you are a PUUSSSYY!!..im sorry but i had to get that out. Look I used to be like you I had almost the same experience with a chick. I finally started ignoring her and now not being her bitch and its been months since we have had any communication with her.

But you know what??GOOD! now im free. you cant be a doormat..i was raging a bit when i saw that you cancelled your party where HB8&9's were gonna be at and traveled 3 hours to see this chick. theres a difference between being nice and being a SLAVE!

You've gotten some sound advice in this thread I cant really offer more or it would just be repeating whats been said already. Just realize that you CANNOT be a doormat for women. You look softer than a wet tissue right now..just give her some space and let her come to you. I wish you the best.

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*Just finished reading*

Tony your are my hero!

Shit, grow some balls men!

I use to like this chick and was her puppy. DONT be her puppy. Be free, READ links, and material about being a ALPHA male!

I did! I quit my job! Worked at a Bar and started dating other women!

THEIR IS NO ONE GIRL! :)


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