Did I screw up my second date (No kiss)



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:32 pm 
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:lol: fuck man I'm being so AFC right now. I think I just needed to see that in black and white. Cheers

It's a lot easier to say than to do though when you have little experience in getting to fuck girls when sober :? I'm just stuck ramping it up from where I am now hmm.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:33 pm 
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Cheers Tr@veler.

At the moment it's for Monday. Don't know what we're doing yet becuase the girl I'm dating doesn't drink alcohol and is a veggie :lol:

It just feels like I'm loosing her, It's NOT oneitis, Ive had that before and know what it feels like. It's more a 'I've put somewhat of an effort in to meeting up with her and it just feels like it's starting to fizzle out even though we kissed'. She's really hard to read too. What would I like from this? Maybe it's a relationship I'm looking for. I mean we did both find each other on a dating site after all and her needs were a relationship too. Any way I can bring this in to the conversation when we're alone about finding out where we both stand?

Thanks Zelda some good points I'll be taking on board.

Anyone else have any ways I can sexual escalate in a smooth way? This whole dating thing is new to me. Normally I meet girls at bars and clubs where we're both way drunk and it's usually a one night stand thing.

Can you even sexually escalate on a double date? To me it feels like a wasted date opportunity. Am I looking at it wrong?

Thanks 8)
Don't mention the relationship thing. It's only as big of a deal as you make it. Right now all she has done is taken long to respond, or not responded at all. COULD be many things, but naturally your mind goes, "Shit, she doesn't like me anymore. She's not responding so she doesn't want to text." Sometimes this is true. But not always. So, ALWAYS take the better option. She hasn't given you a true reason to think she doesn't like you.

On the double date, a few things. She is NOT the center of attention. Sit close to her, and be natural and fun with all three of them. Don't give her more attention than the other two on the date. Try to game them. You know this shit man. Lead the conversation, but don't worry too much about "how do I lead now, where do I take it now?" Just be cool, lean back when you don't have stuff to say. And at the same time you touch her, you kino escalate her. Calibrate from where you're at. A GREAT tester that I remembered from Sin is check tension in the shoulders. So when you make a point, you put your arm around her and pull her in to you. If she is stiff and doesn't move, she's not comfortable and you back off. If she leans in, she's comfortable and you can escalate further, from shoulder to back, to lower back, to knee and then up her thigh. If you go too far she'll stop you, and it won't be verbal, just a subtle stop with her hand.

Grab her hands and I dunno, show her something (Like I use my wrist because I broke my left one rollerblading once, and a bone sticks out a little more, so I take their fingers and say feel this, and run it across my wrists. Gets her comfortable touching your hands).

And kiss in isolation I would say, when the others are not there. But again, see how she feels. Maybe she's asking for it. Giving you a shit ton of signals, not caring what the other two think, and if you don't go for it, you're pussying out. What signals? The usual IOIs, and looking at you all the time, whenever you talk her voice lowers, she might even raise her chin as if saying "kiss me now". Then you go for it.

But once you've escalated you can use the table to hide your holding hands.

These are all tips on whether things happen. It may be that she gives you NO SIGNALS at all. And that she is stiff as hell. In which case you just focus on having a great time with the two others. It shouldn't phase you how her behavior is. Just keep trying to escalate. She'll either come around or not.

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:09 pm 
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Thanks for the tips. I won't bring up the relationship thing. Yeah I think I'm focussing too much of my attention on her (it doesn't show, I'm not needy like that) but when I'm not with her I can't get her off my mind and it's becoming a bit depressive. It's just after the kiss (which she seems really into and glad I finally did it) the other night she seems a bit distant.

She used to tease and stuff through text but now her texts are really straight. She still asks questions and stuff but she's gone from replying instantly to maybe 8 hour gaps between them.

Cheers for the double date advice. I like the arm around to see if she is receptive advice. Appreciate it. Think I'm good to handle that. I guess it's just a case of meeting up with her more frequently than the other guys, even if there are other guys, I'm just assuming.

Just have to hope it goes ahead. I can feel a flake coming :(

Just been on the dating site again to see if I can secure some more dates to hopefully take my mind off this girl. I know it's never good to focus everything on one person (Or I'll feel the way I do haha).

Cheers!


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