It’s really not that hard to have control variables, and I believe that people are making this more complex than it really is. At the basic level, the simplest control experiment is the environment and the time, whether you prefer to talk to women in cafe lounges or clubs, or you prefer to talk to them at night or day. These are control variables that have been used in PUA since its inception, and really doesn’t differ from anything previously set by others. Furthermore there are other control variables such as group sizes (such as if a woman is by herself or in a group), specific population segments (such as older or younger women), and certain types of women (such as punk or skater). These are simple and practical means to have control variables for experiments. We do this all the time, but just don’t recognize it.

The above however is all irrelevant. Since the goal of the tool is not to exactly duplicate the scientific method, but rather use its capabilities to narrow down the focus of the individual using the tool. Instead of focusing on a billion things, the individual can now have eagle’s vision on one or two precise targets. For example, you may like older women and night game, but have trouble maintaining eye contact with them. You can now go out during the night and talk to specifically older women and focus on eye contact. It’s really that simple.

As for the second sentence, it is certainly worth the time and effort to learn from mistakes or improve on strengths. The most skilled and talented people in any subject aren’t people who are the best at everything, but those who enhance their strengths, and diminish their weaknesses. There is really no other way to do this effectively less than journaling. Having ad hoc subconscious realizations without writing them down is a sure fire way to forget what you just realized and repeat the same mistakes.

To demonstrate the simplicity of the tool itself, I have come up with an example of how easy this really is. In every experiment of this nature the central question is, “how can I improve?” When doing this we ask two very specific questions: what did I do right? What did I do wrong? It really isn’t anymore complicated than that. The initial test is to evaluate (meaning find things out), and the second retest is to find an appropriate solution to the previous problems or a way to make advantages more effective. Let's move on shall we?

Definition: At the heart of every experiment is a definition, what and why.

I will focus for a period of three weeks on women ages 36 and up when I go out. I will go out at least 3 times a week, Thursdays thru Saturday. My primary target area for going out will be on the bar strip down Lasangles Ave. and Petree St. My ultimate objective is to practice eye contact with older women during night game because I have a tendency to break eye contact. My goal is to have strong and sexual eye contact with older women.

Boom, done, didn’t take a lot of work or postulating, you narrowed down a location, a target group, a time for the experiment, certain days, and the goal of the experiment. This took four or five sentences.

Research:

After looking for two days I found an interesting book last night covering how to be affectionate and sexual with older women, called: “How to game your Mom’s Best Friend” (not a real book only used for the example). In the book it covered a section on eye contact, and how important it is to put a sexual presence behind your eye contact with older women. I will use this as my primary source to refer back to when I evaluate my self.

BOOM! Another four or five sentences, damn this is really easy.

Predict:

I am a little nervous about this since it’s my first time. Because of this I believe that I will initially be nervous when establishing eye contact, but it will soon fade as I become more confident with my surroundings. I will see if my predictions match my actual performance.

BANG! Two to three sentences, with neutral insight, didn’t say “oh I suck”, “I’m gonna die”, “why the hell am I doing this”. Just, “I’m a little nervous and shy, this is my first time. I think this will affect my performance slightly, but with time I’ll overcome, I’ll see how I do.” It’s really simple to and it’s an effective way to exceed your own expectations of yourself. Let’s move on again.

Experiment:

So your at Gigi’s Saturday night talking to everyone in sight, but you know this particular spot to be a good place for older women. All the younger girls are talking, but not going when you make advances, but those are just warm ups for the bigger picture. You go back and see this hot mom named Coretta, she’s half Black and Latina, and she’s going back to school in nursing. You have a great conversation, but your nervous once she brings up sex, your eye contact was good until that happened. You break eye contact, she becomes disinterested and leaves. That’s no biggie. You’ve learned two things, one, you’re nervous about sex, and two that you at least know how to carry a conversation. Let’s move on shall we.

You go talk to Sarah, she just got divorced from a dead beat husband. You’re trying to talk to her, but she won’t look you in the eye one bit. You try to look her in the eyes, but notice that she was a little turned off by your age and inexperience. She wouldn’t go because of it. No biggie. You’ve learned that some women will not be interested, let’s move on.

You finally stumble upon Carissa, and she’s a nice cougar that just finished med school. She used to be a bad girl but is trying to settle down. You’re talking for awhile and you’re eye contact with her is amazing. She’s rubbing your leg and is only a whispers kiss away. You’re getting friendly with her too, but once you heard that she was looking for a commitment you broke eye contact, you were hellah turned off. It’s only been 36 minutes, too short to get to know someone. She looks you in the eye to see what happened, you were so cool with her before, but you’re not interested in being trapped at the age of 23. So you hop up and bolt. You learn that when affection is reciprocated that it is much easier for you to maintain eye contact and feel comfortable, but the mention of long-term relationships so soon is a bit of a turn off.

You talk to a few more women and find this out. Your first night wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t a smashing success. At least you learned you can have a good conversation and you’re a quick learner. You’ve already determined that you’re going to try to go out at least three times a week, but two will suffice if duty calls. You record those results from that night, and you repeat this process.

Analyze your data:

So after three weeks you’ve gotten some really good data. You’ve talked to well over 100 target women. You recorded all this data and didn’t allow your mind to wonder or get distracted with other useless information during the course of the experiment. Once you tally up all the data you can now format it into useful information.

Interpret the data:

Once you peel back your journals you begin to notice a pattern. After women say things that make you nervous or disgusted you move away. Most of the events that make you nervous about eye contact have to do with aggressively sexual women, women ignoring you, or are not reciprocating to your advances. On the flipside women who are receptive and affectionate boost your level of eye contact. Most events that make you too disgusted to maintain eye contact have to do with women who are talking about long term commitments after a very short period of time.

You begin to recognize certain patterns over and over again. And take note of those habits.

You then conclude that there are three key factors in making you break eye contact, nervousness, disgusts, or very large groups. There are also three factors helping to strengthen your eye contact, receptive women, affectionate women, and who are easy to be around. You can now make a statement as follows:

Conclusion:

I can now include that the things which break my eye contact are things which make me nervous, such as women ignoring me or being very moody at the start of an interaction. My voice shrinks during these interactions and I look down toward the floor. I draw general disgusts from women when they speak of relationships so fast and I barely know who they are. I tend to look away during this time. And finally, I tend to not establish eye contact around groups, they make me nervous.

As for what enhances my eye contact are women who are receptive, affectionate, and are easy to be around. I find that women who share many of my same interests, or are adventurous tend to be easier to key eye contact with and escalate with.

A paragraph or two. Nothing more, nothing less.

Retest:

Now that you’ve found weak areas, you can now target these areas using the same method, but now instead of attempting to evaluate, you are now finding a solution to a previous problem. And as for strengths you can now exploit this previous advantage and hone in on the skill.

BOOM! Besides the actual recording of the experiments it probably took less than a page or two to evaluate your self and find all your weak areas. You now have a tool which can transform your life.

After doing this for nearly 2 months, you become an eye contact king. You can establish and maintain eye contact, even when you are nervous. You can now keep eye contact even when you are a little disgusted, and now crowds no longer bother. Women who are already receptive throw themselves at you. You’ve now had several day 2’s. With common sense the same thing could’ve taken the guy 5 or 6 months to find out.

To keep this simple vic, the objective here is not to control the situation with the woman, but the you controlling the situation with yourself. It is not about finding every little niche to get perfect, it’s finding out what is effective 40-60% of the time versus 5-12% of the time. The goal here isn’t perfectionism, but self-control and effectiveness. And what other way is best to evaluate your own effectiveness than to evaluate yourself using a neutral medium such as science? This method is not an exact replica of the scientific method, but is surely as scientific and effective as we can make it on self.

Finally, the ability to adapt to a situation and use certain tools comes with time and experience. The first goal is to find something that works. Initially the individual will stick with this until they experiment and find other means of effectiveness. Viewing it from this perspective, I fail to see why this is not an effective means of learn.

The love for argumentation is actually counter productive. Been there, done that. What works really well is trying to see all angles (points of view) on a topic and integrating the best concepts, or even trying out all concepts to see what works best, through cooperation and collaboration.

You don't always have the best idea and arguing that your idea is better than anybody's idea is not scientific. I found it more productive to listen to expert advice and test it.

But the key is finding out who the expert is and if the expert is really an expert as he claims he is in PUA.

The field tests never lie.

If a PUA idea works 30% of the time, then that's good enough for me since each individual woman has her own unique behavior.

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Your statement at the top kind of missed what I'm saying sometimes your confidence doing something is why it works. It's not that you grabbed her hips, it's that you were confident when you did it or whatever other behavior. You may have had confidence with a mustache so you did well but don't without so you do poorly. There are plenty of reasons that something would work for one women as charming and annoying to another.

While I love the concept humans are entirely to large of a variable for this to work. Science is all about eliminating or limiting variables to get an accurate measurable results. Are you going to wear the exact same shirt (your attire can limit or multiply your success)? Go to the exact place (different personalities who like different "types" at different places)?

I know you are trying to keep this simple and so I like the concept. I like the concept of recording positive results but where do you draw the line. At what point do you say oh well that wasn't a rejection, she was busy, etc. Is it black and white as in if the interaction ends short of any type of close when you had intentions of closing a dash? Or do you make exceptions? A woman that is married or a woman that is interested in women only.

Record your successes and try to emulate your behaviors from that night, with minor tweaks as you go. Screw the numbers pay attention to what you did when things worked. The percentages don't matter because they can't possibly ever be accurate. Don't worry about what you did when they didn't work, just look at your successful behaviors and keep doing them tweaking them to the situation.

As I said the thought is simple, concept is beautiful but the rationality falls short in the long run. You can't do that, there are many reasons out of your grasp that can attribute to your success and failure with women.

At the same time I like where you ended up, I think you using the word science with it is really my issue, since you can't make it scientific with huge variables like emotion, context, location, etc. I like where you end up and thus as I said the concept but disagree with you using the word science lol.

I understand your thoughts and am totally on board with where you ended up.

Peace and Love

Vic

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Vic, if this was humanity's perspective in the present day, then we would still be in the iron age, and it would be pratically impossible to play golf or tennis given that there are so many different variables outside of your control which can lead to your success or failure. However, in both golf and tennis there are maybe a couple dozen or more standard protocols used in the vast majority of situations to assure success. What you are arguing is that there are no sound things men can do to improve with women, when in general, there is.

At any rate, I said that I would officially prove the merit of this tool. I said starting September 6th I would start a new objective which would prove its utility. However, this must be postponed to a future date because of another objective I have yet to finish. Once this objective is complete, I will being on the new objective. I will however, on September the 6th make an official annoucement to the forums as to what the objective is.