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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:46 am 
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Alright I haven't posted in a while and I gotta work for another 2 weeks. So I won't be online as much cause I'm gone all day. But just cause I can't approach as much doesn't mean I'll quit. I opened all my new coworkers today.

I got a direct approach in yesterday (my last day of freedom lol):
She left a store and didn't look too busy.
Me: Can you stop for a second?
She stops.
Me: Look I don't run around the city approaching girls all day but I noticed you and you look like an interesting person! So what's your name?
We exchange names and small talk. It was a weird convo because I never stopped a girl as long as her. Just an example:
Me: So you look pretty young are you still going to HS?
Her: No I go to college in -small city 120miles away-
Me: So what brings you here? I've been to your city and it's much prettier than this.

Basically it was maybe a minute. I commented a lot and I just kwpt talking and asking. I was definitely leading the convo and I followed pumpingtons posz because I was honest. It felt like I was cleaning out my consciousness, I just said whatever came to mind.

She looked like it was pretty awkward to her though. She stopped for me and gave me her name and stroked her hair etc. But I never lost the feeling that she was actually busy and had somewhere to be. Whatever, another approach and I'm getting more comfortable in set every day. I think I did a good job calibrating. It's sometimes hard for me to read girls and say "ok she's ready for teasing/ she needs qualificatin/comfort/whatever." Sometimes, it's obvious, but not always.

I guess this comes with experience right? Anyway I posted to let y'all know I'm still going on.
awesome man, you are pulling through longer in set now

that one girl was probably just confused, be more honest, get to the point of where you are leading, try not to censor yourself to get her, turn your brain off, say what you know, instead of what you think she might wan't to hear, let her know you find her attractive and that is the reason you are speaking to her, be more honest

direct-opener-getting-alot-of-rejection ... tml#657160

^ here this might help you a bit in dealing with initial reactions

the focus in set is really connecting with that girl man, you want to become a part of her life, you make your impression and really make an effort to know her and have her know you, the sex is just part of it, she's a girl, you're a guy, you approached her cause she is sexy, naturally you want to get close to her and make out with her, eventually get it in, that should just be assumed, but knowing her is the reason she will meet with you, knowing you is the reason she will feel safe getting naked in front of you, and knowing you is the reason she trusts you to not brag to your friends about it, the more she invests in the conversations, the more she will think about you and have that feeling that she knows you, but, to invest in a product in the first place, the buyer has to see value in the product (they need a reason to invest), you should be the only reason they need, let them know why you want to invest in them (justfy why), then begin investing, if they reciprocate your advances, you can both escalate together, if she is non-compliant fully when you have done a good job of getting her settled, and projecting the intentions through your frame, then she probably just doesn't see enough value or she is currently invested into something else too far, and has descided for herself that she must not invest in you in order to keep her other investment safe (sexually unavailable)

forget the game concepts, for a while focus on, enjoying yourself, and really getting to know those you are talking with, and when you are looking for some sort of act of compliance, justify why you want their compliance, they are more likely to comply when you give them a reason (example: I want to talk to you cause I find you attractive, I have to meet my friends and leave, so lemme grab your number, or you seem really cool, I want to take you out for coffee next week, we should go back to my house and watch a movie or it's getting kind of late and the drinks are kind of pricey here, lets go back to my place for some drinks etc.), you lead and justfy your coarse of action, it doesn't have to be honest, but the more honest you are at all times, the easier it is the maintain congruence without having to think, when you start to notice problems that continue to re-occur with multiple girls, post the problem in the sticking points section, and often there will be a way to dis-qualify this problem, either during the situation for the future or pre-emtively by dis-qualifying the problem before it comes about, you can then practise the improvment your game and correct the sticking point


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Hey pumpington,

thanks for your post. Honesty is key, I agree with that. When I look back on my first approaches, I did some weird and incongruent shit because I read too mich tactics and what not. In my last entries here I tried making it simple: telling her what caught my eye, talking about what's on my mind etc.

Other than that, I got 2 more weeks of work left and after that I decided to go kickboxing. Why? I'm not happy with my appearance. I need to lose weight. But that's not all. I don't have many friends as of now. The friends I do have are nerds. I was a nerd, and I'm not going back. Kickboxing will help me socialize and meet high-status friends. The reason I wanna improve these aspects: when I approach, I often get this feeling of " what can you offer?" Even if she dates me: I have no significant social circle, I need to loose weight and I'm not happy with my situation in life. Daygame gave me the balls to talk to beautiful girls without getting scared, but it's just one tool for my self-improvement. I want a better life, the one I dream of, and girls are just one part. Plus, a social circle, social experience, and a better appearance can only help my chances in daygame. So I'll do it all. I won't stop approaching, of course. Every time I notice an interesting person, I'll talk.

Why am I writing this? Because this is like my diary and wverything that relates to PU and changing my life should be written down so I can check myself and nit become lazy. I'm basically committing to change and keep you and me posted because otherwise I would find excuses. With this blog thingy I put myself under pressure to keep going. So I don't wanna throw it away.

On topic: I was at a bookstore in Munich and I saw a pretty girl standing in front of a shelf full of law books. She was in her late twenties, I guess. Since it was a bookstore, I tried to be situational and discreet instead of direct.
Me: Do you go to law school here?
Her: No.
Me: Too bad, cause I would have liked to talk to a college student from around here, I might wanna go to school here one day. So what are you looking at law school stuff for?
Her: I'm just looking at an advice book, cause I'm trying to find an appartment. I don't know why they put them here.
Me: So is this town really as expensive as everybody says? That would be a shame.
Her: Yeah, it's really expensive.

I ran out of things to say plus I had no idea what to do with her. She's much older than me and lives in a city I only visit like three times a year. Plus I was really hoping to meet a college person because I was thinking about going to school there. Look this is what I'm talking about: I talk to the girl and I don't know why. Right now I'm only doing it because I would feel like a pussy if I didn't approach. That's why I need to have a life and friends because I need to be able to be happy about myself so I have something to offer. Right now I'm just a nerd who approaches strangers to make himself feel better. Before PU I though I was average and fine but now I see things in a different way. I need to be interesting not for the girls but for myself.

I'll keep you posted about my progress since I will keep doing daygame.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:33 pm 
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I know this thread is old but I thought I'd share this.

Redsky's quick number close:

I started out just saying, "excuse me."

If they stopped then I would say, "I think you're cute, do you wanna get coffee sometime?"

If they said yes I would ask, "Ok, what's your number?"

Then I'd tell her my name and get her's, along with the number.

If she said, " let me get yours." Then I would say, "I honestly think it's the guys responsibility to call the girl. If you're not interested then just tell me."

After I got it, I would say, "Alright, I gotta meet up with some friends but I'll hit you up later."

It works pretty well. It's pretty direct, short and you sound like a gentleman.

The worst she can say is no.

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What's up,

it's been forever, sorry. I failed to update this thread regularly. There was school and I had to get my future plans straight but it doesn't excuse my laziness. I still had an overall positive development. Daygame made me more sociable and I don't turn down invitations to partys etc anymore. I finally go out on the weekends and I will start clubgame too. I'm just ready to fuck :D

Last week though, when I got off from school I went to Munich. The girls are ridiculously fine so I deliverately walked around town to get back in the groove. I noticed two blondes sitting by a big fountain, talking Russian. I don't think I've been that nervous yet. My first seated group, I experienced a shit load of newbie AA. And who's to say they even speak my language?

Me: Hi (best smile I could muster)
That got their attention super fast and put me in the spotlight.
Me: I know this is crazy but I saw you two sitting here and (so far EC, but here I take a break and look up) I'd like to find out what makes you so interesting to me!
I think I did a fine job, but then they start laughing. Lol I know this isn't supposed to happen after a DO. But the laugh didn't throw me off. It was kind of cool actuslly and it got the whole street looking.

Me: Hey what's so funny about that? ( I wasn't butthurt so I delivered with a little laugh myself) Can I sit here and join you guys real quick?
Girl 1: Well actually we were just about to leave. (laughs) But thanks for the compliment!
Me: Ok so what were you guys up to? You probably did some shopping...
Girl 1: yeah, got some coffee...
Me: Male bashing...
Girl 1 laughs, 2 chuckles
Me: Ok you guys have a fun ladies night out! (not a smooth exist I know)

Didn't go for the NC cause it's a city that's 3h away from me. I did this set just to not lose the progress I made and see if I still got it.
What's your assessment? I really have no clue. The way they were laughing might not be good but they were nice and 1 seemed communicative. 2 just straight up looked ar me. She had huge sun glasses so I couldn't read her. I still don't know if it was interest, curiosity... but neither of them seemed creeped out. They were actually pretty cool. Too bad I won't see em again (even if I had gotten a number).

Anyway a weird set but a cool experience. IMO they (at least Girl1) weren't really interested but they were really cool and funny about it.

What do you think?


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Nobody? :P


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Nobody? :P
I think you should've worked on the interested one. try for the number next time.

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her: (smile) abercrombies.
you: holy shit, i dont like that store!
her: why not?
you: because its flooded with half naked men trying to sell you stuff i dont need! Its like a Twilight fanday!
I like Abercrombie. What can this mean :shock:


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