Background:

Met HB8 through a friend when all of us attended a music festival. I tried to make a move early on, only to be denied because she has "someone back home who would be hurt if she cheated on him". Throughout the weekend, her and I grow more close and by the end, we are hanging out with solely each other, lots of kino as in dancing together, walking with arms around each other and we would even get in real close, like we were going to kiss but wouldn't. We have also stated how much we want each other but can't because she has a "boyfriend". She knows I want her and she says she wants me. On the last day, after being teased all weekend, I was finally able to kiss her while we were lying naked in my tent. I kissed her on several occasions, but one time she stopped me saying she didn't want to have any regrets about me and really likes me.

I felt like at several times she was just waiting on me to make a move so she wouldn't have the guilt. Like she asked me to paint her tits and she would sleep with me or grind up against me. I think she would put me in these situations to make a move, but I just never did.

We both had a great time, and agree we want to go to another festival together. She lives 8 hours away so I haven't seen her since the festival, but we have been texting back and forth. There is a festival next week that we have been planning on attending but...

Situation:

I haven't brought up the whole boyfriend issue with her yet. The last time I saw her, she was telling me she wasn't sure what she wanted with the relationship and wasn't even sure about the guy. She also referred to him as her pseudo boyfriend and they aren't even official, just exclusive.

Our mutual friend, K, who is HB's best friend, has been trying to tell HB to leave her shitty bf and have a good time with me. But HB told K she wouldn't sleep with me because she is still with her bf, she doesn't know me well and a relationship between us isn't possible.

So my problem is, do I travel the 8 hours to go to this festival with her, knowing I'm just going to be teased again? I'm excited for the festival, but would love to fuck HB as well. I wasn't going to ask her about the boyfriend and just escalate and see what happens but I'm not sure if that is the best idea.

She knows I'm really attracted to her, and knows I'm persistent so obviously she knows I'm gonna make a move. I mean, what does she think is gonna happen going to a festival, getting messed up with a guy she is into and is into her?

TL;DR: Met girl. Escalated. Denied twice since she has a pseudo boyfriend. Continued escalating throughout weekend. Make out several times before she leaves. She wants to go to another festival with me knowing I want her. I assumed she was going to break up with the guy but she is still with him. Am I just going to get played again by going to this festival?

Any advice?

Look, the only obstacle standing between you and her, is your inability to break through the "boyfriend barrier".

If she was indeed as committed as she states, she would not be kissing you while lying naked in your tent. Which again is an interesting scenario, because how could you not finish what you started, minus the clothing barrier, but never mind.

You have to re-iterate your desire strongly when she presents you with this excuse. Also, women speak one thing but desire another. If she physically pushes you away or holds your hands away from her body and tells you to cease your actions, then stop by all means. But, as long as she's reciprocating through her body, don't heed to her words so much.

And I hope you know how to escalate seamlessly, if you don't get yourself a copy of DiCarlo Escalation Ladder. It's a free pdf and it should streamline the process.

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I wasn't really able to seal the deal then because my buddy came up to the tent and cockblocked me.

When you say re-iterate my desire, does that mean directly telling her I'm attracted to her? She already knows I'm into her and we have gotten physical with each other in the past. There has just been about a month since we last saw each other, and I'm sure some attraction has faded.

I'm still not sure the best way to play this situation. I will be staying the night at her house before we leave for the festival. I think I'll be getting in rather late, so odds are she will probably just want to go to bed.

Should I play it cold the first night as in talking with her, but nothing sexual, no flirting and not try to make a move at all? I sort of did this with her at first, and it seemed to work out in my favor. My worry with this is she won't make the first move and will be waiting for me to.

Another thing, she told her best friend, K, that she is not commited to her BF because she believes commitment comes with marriage BUT she doesn't want to break his trust. I'm a little confused on how to take that.

show her such a good time she cant pass u up (e.g. by comparison her bf seems dull and ordinary)

Without a doubt, I'm about to have an amazing weekend. Her and I had a great time last festival, and I'll make this one better.

Its just, even at the last festival, when we were having an amazing time, she still resisted me at times with the BF line. I know it isn't anything serious, from both her and her friend. I also know this guy is like 30, does drugs and just skateboards, so he doesn't really have much going for him.

One thing I think holding her back, is she seems like she wants to be in a relationship, and since I am 7hrs away and have told her I'm not looking for a relationship, she is reluctant with leaving the safety net of her BF to be with me.

WAIT, Im confused...you painted her tits? These have to be the clearest IOI Ive fucking heard of! How did you miss this?

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My personal mantra:

"Every woman's a whore in the right situation"
"They're all selling it for something"
"She's sluttier than you think she is"

I definitely knew she was into me, but the problem was whenever I tried to kiss her, she would turn away, using the BF excuse, but then continue to give me crazy IOI's like the painting tits, grinding on me, always looking for me in the crowd, letting me grab her tits.

I'm starting to think she was just being a tease the whole weekend. That or I didn't build enough attraction when I tried for the kiss.

I just wanna know how I should handle her this weekend. If I go in for another kiss and she turns away or something like that.

this. a chick who lets you fool around with her tits but won't kiss you "because she has a BF" either has the escalation ladder totally fucked up or is just being a sluttish tease.

I am sorry for the boyfriend. Probably a "nice guy".

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nice guys don't get laid
"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

So given that she is just being a tease, how can I spin it in my favor.

I think if I showed up and displayed more interest in just going to the festival with or without her, and didn't give her all the attention she wants, she would start seeking it more and more. Then make a move. If she denies it, repeat the freeze out.

Any advice on that?

usually I do not waste a lot of time on a girl before I nailed her. so if it were me, I would either go no-contact or put up some argument that sounds like "fuck me or next" and use it to next.

the above as a disclaimer that my advice is not necessarily the best in this situation, since I never ran this kind of game.
you could try a role-reversal
she wants you to paint her tits. and you say "no no it's so bad you have a BF we should not, it's soooo bad and naughty. no let's not do that". she wants to grind on you, and you go "no no no you're so hot, it's making me hot and we can't allow that you have a BF this is nasty let's stop" and so on..
that should get her horny enough that she will jump on your bones

of course, this implies you're totally fine with nailing a chick who is already seeing someone (karma can be a bitch!) - remember not to LTR her

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nice guys don't get laid
"It's disrespectful not to bang them when they sleepover." (Hellhound)

I think she was already dtf. I can't believe you had a girl naked and not go for the fclose.

As a poster already said. If her body is showing you ioi push through verbal barrier.

Ex:
Her: we shouldn't be doing this.(while making out or getting physical)
You: yea we shouldn't(but keep going forward)

You'll find that point of no return is closer than you think lol

Haha yea, I am definitely upset for not sealing the deal then and there, but my buddy did cock block me and I didn't really get much of a chance again. It was tough getting her alone while surrounded with 20,000 people at a festival and sharing a tent.

I will definitely read her body better next time opposed to her words. I think she sensed some doubt in my actions and words when I tried to make a move which is probably why she resisted at times.

I find that girls I meet always put up a resistance just the way it goes. Just have to push through.

I find that these stuff should not be regretted though. It's a lesson learned. Personally when I make such a big error I'm thankful because it becomes so ingrave in my brain that the next time it happened I succed lol

Ok,

so now a new question.

Over the month I haven't seen her, our mutual friend, K, has been talking to HB about sleeping with me and breaking up with her bf. I think she overdid it and I just got this text.

HB: Hey DaLinkin! So I was talking to K and I guess she's been heavily encouraging you to sleep with me without understanding what's been going on over on my end of things. I don't want you to feel like you've been lead on so I just wanted to let you know that things have gotten more serious between myself and the guy I was seeing here so I wouldn't feel right sleeping with anyone else. I'm sorry if this message is awkward or presumptiuous, I just wanted to make sure we are cool and on the same page cuz I'm really looking forward to seeing you again this weekend and I don't want our chance to be friends to get f'd up.


Not really sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I don't really care to spend $200+ just to get blue balled all weekend. But on the other hand, I feel like if I backed out now, I'd ruin any possible chances with her in the future.