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Why Women Get Engaged or Marry for Love and Yet Cheat for Sex

Once a cheater is always a cheater is an age old cliche. Yet we all need to see this from a scientific point of view to better manage our relationships.

Given the opportunity when a pussy is dangled right in front of a man for that easy lay, most men are bound to take that pussy; provided, however, that the vaginal support system is anywhere in the HB6 to HB10 rating scale. Many men won't think twice about cheating on their girlfriends or wives and justify the act as not cheating. After all, their girlfriends or wives still own their hearts. It's just sex.

Now, let's reverse that. When a woman is presented with an opportunity for banging a cock from a hot man within the HM6 to HM10 rating scale, most women will hesitate to take your dick by the balls and slap their faces with your eager bird thinking, "OMG! OMG! Am I dreaming? This is such a suave penis and my vagina is about to copulate with this hard, throbbing cock!"

Women will tend to hesitate in taking your dick mainly for a memetic reason-- They don't want to be labeled as sluts and derided by the entire community. Another reason is that some women feel that they need an emotional connection first before a quick fuck with your, uhm, little dick.

From an economic rationale, it's supply and demand. Women need to take care of a fertilized ovum for 9 months courtesy of just one man. Meanwhile, one man can fertilize 800 women in 20 years or around 30 women in the same 9 months as long as he's up for the challenge anytime of the day. Moreover, cute hot babes get hit on by many men on an hourly basis not including the dozens upon dozens of AFCs who just look from afar thinking how they'll approach the girl.

But the MAJOR, unconscious, genetic reason is that only a few men can actually give them a vaginal orgasm. That's right. That's just ONE vaginal orgasm. A huge percentage of men have premature ejaculation problems. An even bigger percentage of men have no idea what a real woman's orgasm looks like. Hence, most men are simply clueless on how to give women vaginal orgasms.

Why? Men have it easy. When we spurt that semen, that's one orgasm. When women lubricate with that cream pie, that ain't orgasm yet dude. When she screams out loud, again that ain't orgasm. Did you ever screamed out loud yourself saying, "Faster! Faster!" while you're jacking off your wanker? Your girl is just faking it, taking cue from those Jesse Jane or Carmen Luvana Pirates of the Caribbean porn spoof. Several scientific studies indicate, and it's already a fact of life, that most women fake their orgasms to make their men feel good.

How to Tell When a Woman is Not Having Vaginal Orgasms - Clothed

So how can you tell when a woman is not having vaginal orgasms with her boyfriend or husband?
  • 1. She frequents clubs and bars and chooses clothes that bare more skin. Grammer and colleagues have a reputable, often cited study on this with a televised feature.

    2. She often gets drunk. Several articles in the Journal of Sexual Medicine report on and analyzed this.

    3. She flirts more openly with a lot of men. While women unconsciously flirt with men most of the time, a woman who is not having enough oxytocin release will be more blatant in her flirting cues. A seminal scientific study featured in mainstream newspapers and tv not so long ago reported on this.

    4. She's irritable most of the time and stressed out. Stress is an indicator that the woman needs more oxytocin and she's not getting it. This is the same reason why stressed out women are hornier so they can have sex-- and hopefully orgasms, and then eventually release lots of oxytocin to help their bodies subdue the stress hormones into more manageable levels. Note: this implies that an angry woman would be much easier to sexually seduce. I've had wild sex in the recent past with a few women who were angry at me before I f-closed them.

    5. By the way she walks. This is from the US National Library of Medicine. It's a free abstract, here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18637995
Why Women Cheat with the Bad Boy

The higher probability of having vaginal orgasms with a man who is skilled and capable is enough reason for a woman to unconsciously fall for your seduction leading to your bedroom. The promise of a vaginal orgasm is enough and it doesn't matter in the seduction process whether you can actually give the woman what she is craving for. This is the same reason why women go for one night stands. If it's just one lay and if it sucks, they won't have so much trouble shaking you off from their lives.

Truth is, most women who still lack experience are not yet skilled enough in separating the capable man from the bunch of clueless AFCs. Moreover, not all bad boys are capable. Genetically though, women unconsciously look for bad boy cues so they can have that elusive vaginal orgasm. And what are these cues? Too bad, I'll have to take my breakfast now. Maybe later. Tee-hee. :twisted:

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Many flaws in the theories presented here.

Number one, women fall in love with guys online, whom they've never met.

It's about how you make her feel that makes her fall in love. Women cheat mostly because the other guy makes them feel a certain way, not because he fucks her good, that sometimes is just a motivation, but the real reason is how she feels when she is with him.

Scientists have studied why women cheat, they already know why men cheat, and really, we cant do much about our own cheating, it's wired in us.

But women often select two men one for survival and one for replication.

Not cause she longs for hot sex, but because the survival guy is not giving her the best chance for replication, in here genes mind.

She needs both survival instict guys and replication instinct guys to thrive at her best.


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Many flaws in the theories presented here.

Number one, women fall in love with guys online, whom they've never met.

It's about how you make her feel that makes her fall in love. Women cheat mostly because the other guy makes them feel a certain way, not because he fucks her good, that sometimes is just a motivation, but the real reason is how she feels when she is with him.


Scientists have studied why women cheat, they already know why men cheat, and really, we cant do much about our own cheating, it's wired in us.

But women often select two men one for survival and one for replication.

Not cause she longs for hot sex, but because the survival guy is not giving her the best chance for replication, in here genes mind.

She needs both survival instict guys and replication instinct guys to thrive at her best.

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Many flaws in the theories presented here.

Number one, women fall in love with guys online, whom they've never met.

It's about how you make her feel that makes her fall in love. Women cheat mostly because the other guy makes them feel a certain way, not because he fucks her good, that sometimes is just a motivation, but the real reason is how she feels when she is with him.


Scientists have studied why women cheat, they already know why men cheat, and really, we cant do much about our own cheating, it's wired in us.

But women often select two men one for survival and one for replication.

Not cause she longs for hot sex, but because the survival guy is not giving her the best chance for replication, in here genes mind.

She needs both survival instict guys and replication instinct guys to thrive at her best.
Excellent!
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Many flaws in the theories presented here.

Number one, women fall in love with guys online, whom they've never met.

It's about how you make her feel that makes her fall in love. Women cheat mostly because the other guy makes them feel a certain way, not because he fucks her good, that sometimes is just a motivation, but the real reason is how she feels when she is with him.


Scientists have studied why women cheat, they already know why men cheat, and really, we cant do much about our own cheating, it's wired in us.

But women often select two men one for survival and one for replication.

Not cause she longs for hot sex, but because the survival guy is not giving her the best chance for replication, in here genes mind.

She needs both survival instict guys and replication instinct guys to thrive at her best.
Excellent!
First correct thing you've said since you been here.

lol! work on your calibration, cool!

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Many flaws in the theories presented here.

Number one, women fall in love with guys online, whom they've never met.
It's very naive for a +40 year old man to think that turning women on (making them horny) online does not happen. Let the younger guys school you on what goes on online. Let me introduce you to vicparkguy83, here: f-close-short-cuts-banging-sluts-vt1222 ... highlight=

People can always cite an exception to the general rule to counter a point. But that's like betting on the other side where your odds at winning are lesser compared to placing your bets on the general trend. SexAddict has a better counter to this-- guys in prison writing paper letters. You're way outclassed in your debunkings dude. :twisted:

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Everyone I've known who studied the love and attraction literature quickly realizes that not only does it not answer many questions, it often leads in opposing directions. And it is interesting, from what I remember many of the Mrs. and Mr. PHDs studying love jointly ended up getting divorces.

I sure love a good study. And a good predictive model. But at the end of the day, we simply don't know enough. Learning all this stuff is good conversation topics with girls, but not much more. And it has the potential to really screw up the world view of a reader or two based on laboratory research and "cave men" pseudoscience.
Academic experts are very focused on their researches. Some specialize in observing how prairie voles have sex and they get their Ph.D.s from this rodent voyeurism. They're conferred the title of sex experts or love gurus. What is amazing is that the academe give them a lot of credence than the likes of Rocco Siffredi or Jesse Jane who know about oral, anal and vaginal sex first hand.

How come? These sexperts are great in written and verbal sex based on their voyeuristic fetishes rather than actual in-field experiences. Meanwhile, porn stars are great at grunting and moaning. I doubt it if they can write or verbally defend their theses. Likewise, rodents and lab animals don't get divorces. Hence, the Ph.D. guys and girls could not handle how NOT to get a divorce. They simply lack infield experience whether it comes to love, sex, or divorce.

As for using science with pick-up, I think this is better than relying on Voodoo chickens or tarot cards, or listening to some pastor who fondles the fat assess of rattlesnakes and then lectures about platonic love and such.

In summary:
  • Laboratory Empirical Evidence + Field Testing = WIN
I'll keep silent in case you choose the Voodoo chicken. :twisted:

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In case you're wondering whether rattlesnakes have assess, they have ass holes too you know.

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The Genetic and Memetic Truths About Dinner and Sex

I've read about an AFC's problem at the General Section before. It was about a girl flaking on the date even though the guy has been offering free food and drinks. What the guy didn't know was the genetic truth about dinner.

And what's this genetic truth? The human capacity to provide for food is correlated to a man's high testosterone level. Testosterone or the displays of it sexually attracts women. This truth has been ingrained into human genes and has evolved for thousands of years.

Simply, the social conditioning or learned behavior (memes) that some guy can treat a woman out to dinner is not enough motivation to actually get her to dinner. A guy has to have enough testosterone showmanship to get the woman sexually attracted to go out on a date with him. It isn't about food. It's about the long term capacity to provide for food that unconsciously gets the woman sexually attracted.

And what does testosterone got to do with it?
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    Striking parallels exist between human males and other male vertebrates regarding status, testosterone, vascular processes, and pigmentation. Male-status hierarchies have been present in nearly all human societies. Status and testosterone appear to be positively associated in men, particularly in contexts involving competition and more generally in normative evaluation. Prior to such events, the testosterone level of those confident in success increases, and testosterone is elevated following success; these patterns have been observed for both physical tasks and mental tasks and for both face-to-face competitive victory and individual normative success. Testosterone has been shown to promote peripheral vasodilation in men, increasing blood flow in visible areas of the skin.
Wear Red to Decrease Your Dinner Flake Rate and Increase Your F-Close Rate

I gave this field tested advice with scientific grounding in the Gaming a Shy Girl thread by Smoothy1990, here: 2-vt130815.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Blood red things increase your sexual attractiveness by at least 33%. The physiological explanation is that blood red is associated with testosterone increase, hence, sexual attractiveness. My evolutionary explanation is that "Red is rooted in evolutionary theory when ancient men went back to their caves carrying the kill of the hunt while blood dripped on their bodies. If there's a kill, there's protein for the women to cook. Also, think of warriors who come home after a victorious battle." Blood red is about an alpha male's long term capability to provide for food, win in competition, and protect women from danger.

Here's the link to the free scientific journal if you want to dig deeper, http://www.psych.rochester.edu/faculty/ ... l_JOEP.pdf

Blood Red Things Make Woman Fall In-Love With You

In conclusion, wear blood red shirts, jackets, scarves or any piece of red clothing. Drive a blood red car. Get blood red blankets, curtains, towels, bed sheets and so on to spruce up your place to increase your chances for the f-close and decrease LMR rates.

Remember: when a woman is horny about you, her chances of falling in love with you is higher than treating her out to dinner. Make her horny. Wear red. :twisted:

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The Genetic and Memetic Truths About Dinner and Sex

I've read about an AFC's problem at the General Section before. It was about a girl flaking on the date even though the guy has been offering free food and drinks. What the guy didn't know was the genetic truth about dinner.

And what's this genetic truth? The human capacity to provide for food is correlated to a man's high testosterone level. Testosterone or the displays of it sexually attracts women. This truth has been ingrained into human genes and has evolved for thousands of years.

Simply, the social conditioning or learned behavior (memes) that some guy can treat a woman out to dinner is not enough motivation to actually get her to dinner. A guy has to have enough testosterone showmanship to get the woman sexually attracted to go out on a date with him. It isn't about food. It's about the long term capacity to provide for food that unconsciously gets the woman sexually attracted.

And what does testosterone got to do with it?
  • Quote:
    Striking parallels exist between human males and other male vertebrates regarding status, testosterone, vascular processes, and pigmentation. Male-status hierarchies have been present in nearly all human societies. Status and testosterone appear to be positively associated in men, particularly in contexts involving competition and more generally in normative evaluation. Prior to such events, the testosterone level of those confident in success increases, and testosterone is elevated following success; these patterns have been observed for both physical tasks and mental tasks and for both face-to-face competitive victory and individual normative success. Testosterone has been shown to promote peripheral vasodilation in men, increasing blood flow in visible areas of the skin.
Wear Red to Decrease Your Dinner Flake Rate and Increase Your F-Close Rate

I gave this field tested advice with scientific grounding in the Gaming a Shy Girl thread by Smoothy1990, here: 2-vt130815.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Blood red things increase your sexual attractiveness by at least 33%. The physiological explanation is that blood red is associated with testosterone increase, hence, sexual attractiveness. My evolutionary explanation is that "Red is rooted in evolutionary theory when ancient men went back to their caves carrying the kill of the hunt while blood dripped on their bodies. If there's a kill, there's protein for the women to cook. Also, think of warriors who come home after a victorious battle." Blood red is about an alpha male's long term capability to provide for food, win in competition, and protect women from danger.

Here's the link to the free scientific journal if you want to dig deeper, http://www.psych.rochester.edu/faculty/ ... l_JOEP.pdf

Blood Red Things Make Woman Fall In-Love With You

In conclusion, wear blood red shirts, jackets, scarves or any piece of red clothing. Drive a blood red car. Get blood red blankets, curtains, towels, bed sheets and so on to spruce up your place to increase your chances for the f-close and decrease LMR rates.

Remember: when a woman is horny about you, her chances of falling in love with you is higher than treating her out to dinner. Make her horny. Wear red. :twisted:

hellhound i am trying not to pupu your post specially after you help me tremendously, which i appreciate, but all of this is mental masturbation, with that being said thanks for your help via pm... Any type of courtship activity like dinner, movies will put the dude in the prospective wanna be boyfriend applicant stack, and she will micro analyse everything to friendzone you, or to delay sex if you have bf potential, ANY DATE OR TRADITIONAL COURTSHIP, is afc, and/or will delay sex for the stated reason... The best date is no date, is hanging out, just starbucks for coffee, any excuse to be at your place or her place, a bar or club for drinks, the beach, the park etc... nothing courtship like, i have never in my life wore red or plan to not even in valentines nor you will see me dead wearing red, you were red in South Florida you are a fag... The afc invite them to dinner trying to impress and spend money automatic turn off... Nothing different from every other loser... As i said and i repeat you want to be the fuckable dude, or fuck buddy, then after you fuck them, work your way backwards to a relationship is always easier to do this after you fuck her... Finally, you are creating bad habits of paying for dinner, not a good way to start... The most i spend on dates is 2-3 dollars renting a movie at redbucks, or buying condoms...

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Great thread.

Text from girl today:

Her: What are you doing this morning?
Me: I'm in the shops
Her: What are you buying me?
Me: Condoms and KY jelly
Her: lol. really? Be serious.
Me: Yes really. See you at 7. Be clean and shaved.
Her: mmm.lol.ok

End of text and end of conversation.


I agree with not spending on dates.

A lot of truth in the red clothing etc as well but I do tone it down.:)


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Great thread.

Text from girl today:

Her: What are you doing this morning?
Me: I'm in the shops
Her: What are you buying me?
Me: Condoms and KY jelly
Her: lol. really? Be serious.
Me: Yes really. See you at 7. Be clean and shaved.
Her: mmm.lol.ok

End of text and end of conversation.


I agree with not spending on dates.

A lot of truth in the red clothing etc as well but I do tone it down.:)

James this is my texting method.. good job! you have the right idea will post in my thread, that is the right way to do it..

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I try to keep the chat to a minimum.

I just joke and tease a bit but with a girl I have only just met I refrain from sexual suggestions and keep it light and just arrange to meet in person but I try and be aware of the escalation principle.


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Any type of courtship activity like dinner, movies will put the dude in the prospective wanna be boyfriend applicant stack, and she will micro analyse everything to friendzone you, or to delay sex if you have bf potential, ANY DATE OR TRADITIONAL COURTSHIP, is afc, and/or will delay sex for the stated reason... The best date is no date, is hanging out, just starbucks for coffee, any excuse to be at your place or her place, a bar or club for drinks, the beach, the park etc... nothing courtship like, i have never in my life wore red or plan to not even in valentines nor you will see me dead wearing red, you were red in South Florida you are a fag... The afc invite them to dinner trying to impress and spend money automatic turn off... Nothing different from every other loser... As i said and i repeat you want to be the fuckable dude, or fuck buddy, then after you fuck them, work your way backwards to a relationship is always easier to do this after you fuck her... Finally, you are creating bad habits of paying for dinner, not a good way to start... The most i spend on dates is 2-3 dollars renting a movie at redbucks, or buying condoms...
Any alternate points of view are welcome in this thread as long as people explain the whys and the hows. These POVs enhance the appreciation of the theories or expound on these some more rather than detract from the theories' intended purpose. :twisted:

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PUA Bullshit Opinions vs the Gems

One of the biggest bullshit in this forum is that women are mainly attracted to looks. The problems is that several men see women from men's eyes in terms of sexual attraction.

Scientific studies say otherwise: women get sexually turned on mainly through words and touch. Hence, those who get laid always advise AFCs to amp up their sexual innuendos and kino. But some are plainly hardheaded and insist that goodlooks is what mainly matters.

Fact is, men (homosexuals) mainly read playgirl; not women. Playgirl.com, the website, is visited mainly by guys rather than girls, here: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/playgirl.com# Check on the audience demographics and you'll see a green bar on the male gender. In short, cut the bullshit and get to work on your sexual vibe.

Goodlooks is a factor though in sexually attracting women but not as much as what you say and how you say it or how you touch and where you touch women.

But of course, several men are not confident enough to go out and sarge without fixing their looks. Fixing your looks can give you confidence to project a very attractive sexual vibe through what you say, how you say topics of conversations, how you touch women, and where you touch them.

Another big bullshit that I've read around here is the advice that you should mainly do a "How to Win Friends and Influence People" Dale Carnegie vibe. That idea is a big load of turd for the simple reason that a woman is unlikely to fall in love when she sees you mainly as a friend and not as a potential sexual partner.

Sure, there are couples who fell in love after being friends for a long time but getting used to a man's testosterone and propinquity are the likely causes of such attraction. Moreover, the attraction might be more emotional rather than sexual. It ain't as hot or explosive as giving off a very strong sexual vibe the first time.

This is not to say that giving off a friendship vibe will not work. It should work if you gave off a very sexual vibe, say, 80% in your interactions and just 20% of that friendship vibe.

The biggest PUA gem of 'em all is that you can actually project a very sexual vibe without saying a word or touching a woman. You simply imagine having sex with the woman you're talking to and your body will do the rest. Your body will release hormones, dilate the eyes of your pupils, and create a load of other physiological and physical reactions that will get the woman sexually attracted to you, and hence, fall in love with you.

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Ezo's Vibe Theory and Mutual Seduction

One PUA concept that made a lot of sense and works on field is mutual seduction. The most vocal forum posters advocate taking the lead when setting up hangouts/dates/encounters/whatever with women. Taking the lead does not always work and the failure rate is too high when you fail to read the signs that the woman wants to take the lead and do the seducing.

A few days ago a fuckable HB said "I love you." My strategy with this girl was to marinate her with a lot of sexual innuendos, show a lot of social proof, pass her shit tests, and do things according to my terms; not her terms. I asked her out several times at different intervals and she always said no. I never made any progress and just trudged along with this strategy. Before I got my breakthrough and got to heavy kino, I always turned her down when she did the asking. I thought back then it was cool to turn her down since she was taking the lead; not me.

Last week, I remembered Ezo's Vibe Theory and the Mutual Seduction Theory, thought 'What if...' and complied with her request. The result? I scored.

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