Sup guys, im a 19 yo student and whilst iv never had a problem getting women, iv never ever approached one - the thought of rejection alone petrifies me. As i grow older im finding women care less about what u look like and more about your personality. I honestly am dreadful at talking to women. Every little detail is over analyzed and pre construed. Having said that my past year in university was spent with an absolute stunner - unfortunately however, she got to know me for the afc i really am soon enough and lost interest. Iv read the books, iv spent hours watching the greats on youtube, iv probably delved deeper into the psychology of seduction than many of you more experienced guys, yet im sitting here right now with nothing to show for it. I need your help guys, how do i get started? Should i open a set on a night out with my mates with a checklist (openers, negs, etc.) or just freeball? How did you guys take the plunge ? I appreciate any responses btw, constructive or not

pacman

Hey man,

I was just thinking of opening my own topic and introducing myself, now I'm sort of in the same position as you are.

I never really had the problem that no women at all liked me, not at all, when I'm in a club I can pick up girls by just smiling at them, and hoping there will be some reason for a conversation. It works sometimes, but not often enough and not "every" single woman out there.

I want to be able to go out there pick a target, and go for it. Just like you said, the thought of rejection is an obstacle, I have to get rid of.

What I'm going to do is keep it simple to myself, my plan will be the following:

- pick a group of girls (no single target just a group of girls)
- I will be trying a few openers
- based on if my openers work, some negs, or ESP tricks

Im doing this to make myself more comfortable to approach a group, and get a group of girls to like me. ( As a friend, as a potential date it doesn't matter, it's just an excercise to get used to approaching)

I think this will work for me, since the goal is not hitting on a girl, I can't really be rejected right?

Worse scenario is a few weird looks from the group, in that case i'm off!

I hope this helped you,

Im just as new as you, eager to learn, and willing to change.

The Grin

cheers for the reply man, its good to know there are others like myself out there too. I can completely empathize with your situation too - i was thinking of just trying a few openers the next time im out and jsut stepping out of my comfort zone a small bit. Il let you know how it goes anyway!
pacman