| I'm going to skip the whole moral argument that you shouldn't hit
on a girl who has a boyfriend. I have the belief that if the
boyfriend is doing a good job then the girl will be un-gameable,
but each case is different and it's best to go with the flow.
For example, imagine you're making out with a girl in the club and
then she says, "God I feel so guilty but I actually have, umm, a
boyfriend." Should you stop and simply say goodbye? I say no
because she might be unhappy with the boyfriend and looking for a
replacement, but the bottom line is do what you feel most
comfortable with.
Now don't even bother with NEWLY engaged or married girls. I think
you'll have better chances with a nun than a girl who just made a
fresh commitment with another man. It takes at least a few months
for that moment to wear off.
That leaves two other types of girls with boyfriends: those who are
unhappy and those who are neither unhappy nor quite ecstatic
either. The best way to find out what type of girl you are dealing
with is the length of time it takes until she drops the boyfriend
in conversation.
The longer amount of time until she drops the bomb, the better.
It's even better if she doesn't mention the boyfriend at all and
you learn from a third party.
Now let's think about that for a second. If a girl is happy with
her man he will keep popping up in her head, leading to a large
amount of guilt when talking to a new guy she may be attracted to.
She will attempt to relieve this guilt by mentioning him as much as
possible in the conversation.
Therefore the sooner she mentions him and the more times she
mentions him, the less likely you'll get anywhere. This fact should
be your guide to see if you should commit to gaming a girl with a
boyfriend, especially since they take more work than a single girl.
On the other hand if it takes a girl over 20 minutes to drop the
boyfriend, consider her breakable. Now combine that with her
engaging you, making eye contact, asking your questions, and
touching you. The more she does any of these things, the less of an
issue the boyfriend is and more you can proceed as you normally do.
It takes a little experience to tell between the girls who flirt
just to feel attractive and girls who want to get banged by a new
dick, but you'll know for sure when you go for the number or kiss.
The former will put up Great Wall of China resistance and the later
will only offer token resistance that you're already familiar with.
If the approach is going well and things are progressing past the
thirty minute mark, just keep doing what you're doing and go for
the kiss on the same night. When you get in close she will make a
verbal objection, maybe mentioning the boyfriend, but just like you
would do if she was resisting in the bedroom, simply agree with her
so she doesn't think about it further.
Don't make it a tug of war, but definitely try again a few minutes
later as an attempt to break down the resistance. If she says she
can't do anything with you just smile and say you weren't trying to
do anything with her anyway. But keep pushing until you get it.
For girls that seem to be breakable but not easy, the only way to
do it is through regular access. If you work with her or see her
weekly, then these repeated encounters will nibble at her
resistance until she just goes through with it. But if you meet her
one night in the club and just get her number before saying goodbye
then the seduction is over because she won't allow herself to see
you again without feeling like a cheat.
Look, if a girl puts herself in a position to cheat, she will
cheat, and you'd be foolish to pass on it for some other guy to
smash it. I found this all out the hard way years ago when I
believed the best way to get a girl with a boyfriend was to first
be her "friend." I fondly remember all those wasted nights talking
with these girls on the phone about the problems she was going
through, with no bang to show for it in the end. It was an
embarrassing period of my life but I think about it every now and
then so I don't get complacent with my game today.
It wasn't until my first success with an engaged girl at work that
I learned how having access is critical to getting with desirable
girls who were already taken. If your game is tight, she will
eventually make it all too easy for things to progress.
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