i've been doing a lot of SOLO night gaming lately, hitting clubs and bars because i've decided that its about fucking time i take my game to another level. Right now, my main focus is to go for same night lay ( SNL ). Im through with getting numbers and shit, and besides, I'm in south beach and 90% of the girls that i meet are tourists, so what's the point of getting a number?

my main problem ( MY MAJOR STICKY POINT ) is that i dont really know what kinds of sets to go for. ideally, i look for single sets ( lone wolves ) but those are VERY RARE. girls dont normally go out by themselves.

So, for those of you REAL PUAS with experience out there, im talking about those of you who know your shit, who are able to pull SNL on a VERY CONSISTENT BASIS, not just once in a blue moon, im talking about those of you who have that shit on lock, what advice and tips would you give me? what kinds of sets do you go for and how do you usually work it? also, if you have some tactics and techniques and tips and whatever, please let me know.

just keep doing what you're doing you'll get there

I'm a long-tooth from the Treasure Coast, a couple of hours north of you...

I pull day game. Grocery stores, the beach, CVS, wherever... As soon as I saw the IOI's I caveman'd. My target demo is/was 35+.

"Wow, you look fucking amazing, who ARE you?"

That - after many different approaches - proved to be my best. I've pulled a woman from a grocery store to a nearby restaurant and back to my house in just under 2 hours. I pulled a chick from WalMart by telling her I didn't want to tell my friends we met at WalMart, and suggested we meet at a bar across the street instead... SNL? Nope. Same DAY lays.....D2 minimum - which can be that same night - to wit, escalating further should be easy if it's considered a date as it is.

The day game was my strongest game. I fucked 39 women since Jan 2012.


Just started a committed relationship this past week. Sarging stops, but information passes through the ages...

Best,


RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Your problem isn't that you can't identify the characteristics that indicate a woman is open to the idea of going home with a guy she just met; it's the implication inherent in that belief that is limiting your success.

People who think they can spot girls who want same-night action tend to believe that some women won't want it no matter how well they're seduced while others are ripe for the picking - essentially that there are two distinctly separate 'camps' of the female gender, and that nobody changes sides.

In reality, nothing could be further from the truth, as virtually any woman will at least consider the notion if only they are presented with the right guy, the right time and the right SPAM.

Your job is to make sure all of those things are in place and then pursue the one who makes your pulse race. Everything else will fall into place on its own.

Your boy,
870

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Well said, 870.

I've always said every woman I'd open had a billion tiny little thought bubbles in her head. Somewhere, there is one that says "I want to fuck this man". My job was to find that bubble before losing her interest.

All she needs - right guy - right time - right SPAM. Prophetic.


RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Looks like you know what the hell you're doing.... i mostly do night game though, but im sure some of your tactics can be used at night as well

just read 870's post, so many guys seem to have a bit of a madonna whore complex going on

on top of what 870 has pointed out, logistics, and screening well for them will help you, a girl that logistically can't come home with you, will not come home with you, figure out her logistics so you know how difficult it will be to logistically pull it off, if she doesn't screen well, set up a date, get her number and move on, things that will be helpful to know are

-who she is there with (the more people the more she could possibly feel judged by her peers if she goes home with you)

-how she knows them (if a girl is flirting with you but she is there with her boyfriend... good luck with that one)

-if she lives close (if you live close you have awesome logistics, but sometimes a chick absolutely will not feel comfortable going to some unfamiliar location with someone she just met, and sometimes frame control just won't cut it to solve this problem)

-what is she doing later/does she have work tommorow (if she is just at the bar for one or two drinks or food or w/e with her buddy(s), she probably already has an idea of what she wants from the night, and this probably won't include getting hammered and going home with some random guy at 2am without her friends, simply hard for you to demonstrate that you are safe in a short amount of time)

-move her, again and again and again, if she won't move and be alone with you in a bar, then she probably won't move to your house at the end of the night (obviously it asks for more compliance from a girl to come home with you, then it does to come get a drink at the bar with you, or go outside with you for a smoke)

other then the above, it is like any other pickup but with a time constraint, set a sexual frame and escalate and screen, the sooner you set a sexual frame the better (open direct), if you are out at night you only have a limited amount of time until the venue closes, don't waste your time on girls that are not even interested in you in the first place, also if it is not already common sense to you, work out your logistics and actually invite the girl back to a place where sex can happen in what ever way works for you, seeding and leading with some plausible deniability can be helpful for this

GOOD LUCK

It all depends on your frame.

If you're not feeling upbeat, confident and energetic as it is - don't try the direct approach. Your mood will be evident. There's afine line between a crab-grab and a creep trying to jerk her over to him...

I still find the opener, FTC, and a systematic escalation work much better than direct game in a club. It may be different at your age (not sure what you age is...), MM works well for my age crowd. I find my night game crowd usually hovers bewteen 40-55 and they've been most accomodating to my advances...

I also have run online dating gambits with extreme success as well....I just maximize my opportunities, and minimize my chance for rejection.

.....then this little redhead came into my life and turned me upside down... LOL


RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

You and the little Redhead.lol

I have never had much success with one nighters.

Best method for me currently?

Meet, fair amount of MM, kino,teasing, escalate fast. Get number and email.

Text/call ONLY to set up meeting and never for a 'chat'.

Try and nail her:)