Which look do you guys think is better and is more "generally pleasing" when it comes to impressing girls with the way you dress.

Swag would be more of a hip hop look. But I don't mean baggy jeans, that don't look good on anyone. Here are some examples of 'swag' or hip hop clothing




VS the more smart classic look






Which one do you think works better and is more general?

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The Asian Don(in the future anyways... )

You mistaken Fashion for style.

Fashion and Style are two diffrent things.

Look at the show Mad Men, they have a classic look that will last forever. Right now if you wore a gray wool suit with white button down you would have style.

Now fashion changes. Fashion will never have the lasting power the "classic" quality. Read GQ fashion week, you will see stuff like skinny belts are in, orange is the new yellow. Every year fashion changes.

Those bright colored pants are fashion that will be a bad look in a year, actually its bad now. Infact that was a last year fashion. A nice gray, or charcol wool trouser will never look bad. A pair of dark jeans will never be bad. Orange(sorry just looked again he is wearing pink, still) pants are bad.

Also skinny lapels on jackets are "in" right now, its hipster fashion. The guy with the bright red under his roled up sleves on a (whats that jacked called, I have one can't think of the name) is fashion. Who roles up those sleeves and pops the collar.

Yeah I used bad examples there with the pictures. I guess what I really mean is "Smart-casual" VS Swag look. So for example - a button up shirt VS a "hip hop" style hoodie, or some Brogue Plimsolls VS Nike Dunks.

Hip hop "swag" style fashion or Smart-casual. What do you think is more successful when sarging girls?

The jacket your on about is called a Varsity Jacket

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The Asian Don(in the future anyways... )

PeaCoat, not varsity jacket.

I took some time and thought about this. I go out sarging in this bar/club area of downtown Chicago. I looked 99% of guys had sneakers on, so I wore dress shoes. 99% of guys wore khaki or jeans, so I wore gray wool trousers. I seen 50% of the guys wearing t-shirts, 30% wearing polos, and 20% wearing button downs(dress shirts). I wear a dress shirt, but they wore like plaid or cross striped, I got me a white stripped satin shirt fitted (those afcs NEVER have fitted dress shirts).

The whole idea of peacocking is to be diffrent, I am being diffrent by just dressing well. Last week I went to the bar with my friend he is a total afc. I had chicks throwing themselves at me.

Here is a pic of me and my friend

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... t=1&ref=nf

I find myself a hella lot more confident when wearing smart. That's me. Wearing a suit or any smart as in a blazer, hair done nicely, makes me feel more confident. Depends what you're comfortable with. That's the basis i find, how comfortable you are with what you are wearing!

Completely and utterly dependent on your own personality and the sort of girl you want to attract.

I couldn't pull a hip hop type appearance off. I'm just not that sort of person. I'd look ridiculous. Yet then again, someone who has that sort of lifestyle would look similarly stupid in a lot of the stuff I wear regularly.

I think I've said this before, and I'm sure I'll say it again, but WHAT you wear isn't actually that important, as long as it looks GOOD ON YOU.

The other tip I think is sort of relevant here is that you should feel comfortable in whatever you wear. That's why I can't pull off some of the hip-hip type stuff you've shown there. Personally, I'd be too self conscious, always thinking "do these suit me or do I look silly?" If you're asking that question even a little bit, then it will affect your confidence and this will show with girls. If, however, you're wearing something that you know suits you, reflects your personality and is something that you are entirely comfortable in whilst wearing, then that will show through.

Bottom line is as well that some girls will prefer the hip hop look, some will prefer the smarter look. But all girls prefer a man who is confident and wearing clothes that improve his appearance rather than a man who is wearing clothes just because he thinks they look cool or he has seen someone else wearing them.

If you dress to a certain established style, you're going to potentially attract more women who subscribe to that style, and possibly lose the interest of others. For example, goths date goths, you don't see a goth with a tan surfer-babe type too often, do you?

If you live in an area that is fully immersed in the swag look, it may work for you as long as you don't leave that culture. Other cultures have different rules and expectations. For example, the sagging pants look with the belt below the buttocks might work in one small part of town where I live, but everywhere else people think it is ridiculous and that the guys who do it are complete idiots. If you work in a different part of town or have to travel, the swag look may not be as successful.

Think of your dress as currency, social currency in fact. You want to be able to spend that money freely and at-will, wherever and whenever you want to. A swag look may not have currency outside of swag culture. Conversely, if that is where you live 24/7, other looks may not have a currency that is as successful as the swag thing.

Personally, I don't respect a man or woman who follows a certain style, no matter how closely they follow it, because it doesn't really say anything about them other than that they are a sell out...they've sold out to a particular look....that, and that they probably have low self esteem so they strictly adhere to a specific style because they think it improves their appearance and people will like them more. It also suggests they have no imagination or creativity, and if they can't compile a decent wardrobe they probably lack sophistication in other areas as well.

It seems like the smart/casual look will provide you with a wider range of looks, and potential a wider appeal to women outside of the swag community. Honestly, why don't you try to combine them? It seems like you are interested in them both, and you could take the best elements of each style and make them your own.

Finally, the swag look seems to depend on: 1) a baseball cap, and 2) sneakers. Neither suggest maturity to a woman.

I think that first bit I've quoted is slightly harsh. Even those of us who may have "our own" style have been influenced by someone, or have gotten clothes from a particular shop - if we've bought something from a skater-type shop, then you will probably pair that item of clothing with other skater-style clothes. Does that mean you have essentially sold your soul to skaters? No. If it looks good on you, then why shouldn't you wear it?

I would agree with you if you said that people who wear a particular style or fashion without trying to adapt it to themselves, or who wear it without thinking about how it will look on them is not good. However, the adaptation does not need to be big. You might wear a particular style and change only one very small thing to make it 'you'. If it looks good, why shouldn't they wear it?

"No matter how closely they follow it" basically means that you won't be able to wear ANYTHING, because I reckon every piece of clothing any of us have got can be categorised into a particular style when taken in isolation.

As for the second bit I have quoted - not everyone is going for a sophisticated type of look though. You might be, but others aren't necessarily doing so. So I wouldn't say that was an issue. Plenty of unsophisticated people get women.

What being poorly dressed does do though (other than the obvious looking better attributes) is that it makes women think you don't care about your appearance. And if you don't care about your own personal appearance, it suggests you've maybe got low self esteem, you're not a worthy 'mate', you probably don't care about other things and won't show respect or attention to the female either. That's different to sophistication, as you can do all of those things without being sophisticated. But I would certainly agree with you that not having a good wardrobe will affect women negatively in more than just a visual way.

I understand what you are saying and I'm all for independence of style but a cap and sneakers may seem immature to you, that doesn't mean every woman agrees. If you looked at my style (which you can by watching any of my videos), I wear crooked hats and colored kicks, as well as colored shorts and shirts.

At a glance yes a woman may think your immature for wearing such things when you go to certain places but if you learn to carry yourself correctly your body language, your words, everything will suggest your maturity, intellect, and wisdom, as it does with me.

If you talked to me you'd meet someone who just loves music, been to tons of shows. I have a big closet of concert shirts, punk, ska, hip hop, jazz, rock, etc., my shirts are clues to what I love, from music to humor, to just the color of the shirt.

I won't lie I am saving up to switch over to suits I think the most effective piece of pick up wear you can wear is suits. Nothing works better or grants me more confidence but I have picked up on girls in formal dresses with a crooked hat, plaid shorts, and a purple t-shirt. Trust me when I say your comfort in your apparel matters far more than the perception of some guy on a forum.

Age and geographic culture should be a big clue as to what looks good for you.

Comfort in what you wear should be the most important part of your decision to dress any style.

Peace and Love

Vic

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I agree it comes down to what you are trying to portray, what kind of girls you are trying to attract, and what you feel comfortable wearing. I personally prefer to dress smart.

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In this world every person has a fashion sense also know what suits to his or her personality. The fashion designers also help us a lot in adopting the fashion according to our personalities. you can see enormous ideas over the internet by using different social medias like youtube, facebook, or other specific channels of fashion. All these ways help us and aware us by giving highly useful information also we can deiced by seeing our fashion icons or super models about the latest fashion.

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Both styles are similar, it's just that swag is a little more flambouyant. I don't think you have to limit your style to one genre. Look at Hollywood types. 50cent used to rock Kevlar vests and platinum chains, then he got that Vitamin Water money and started rocking Armani suits. If you have the money, you can buy all sorts of clothes and have a different look everytime you go out, depending on the occassion and how you feel.

The main limiting factor is what styles look good on you, which is specific to you. I would look like an idiot if I tried the hip hop swag look because I'm an old, tall, skinny white guy.

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Those:




But I prefer the first pic! Just because it shows class.

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Really such a beautiful collection of casual wear. Fantastic photography red with black color coat is my favorite which i liked really looking awesome.

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Bruno Moretti