Ok guys kind of excited because now I know the issue that I have had.. Basically I go out alone because I moved to Miami about 6 months ago and always go to clubs by myself and will drink then do what most creepers do.. take my drink look at the dance floor walk and around to see if any girls are checking me out.. and repeat.. Basically I know this is why I don't ever leave with anything and women are probably like look at the loser who is just standing there with no friends doing nothing. I am in great shape and always look good but DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.. So my question is what do you recommend? I have people to go out with but usually hate going out with other guys because I like doing my own thing but it is hurting me and until i get more confident I won't go up to girls so I definitely need a couple guys to go out with.. This hit me when one of the girls I will probably hook up with from CT saw one of my old friends i used to go out with and texted me. She was like your friend tried dancing with me and I said no and I was like why?? lol she's like he's a creeper.. bingo lol luckily i work with her so I will be getting her next time i visit but I did the same thing as him so thats exactly what girls who don't know me think.. who has went through this and what advice can you give?

my question is can you talk to a woman or do you walk away when she's asking you a question?

just stop going to clubs to exclusively pickup women, start going to clubs to have fun and socialize, talk to men and women, not just prowl for women because you want to get laid, being so concered with getting laid will make you more tense and shitty to be around, this will repel women from you

just forget about it, have as much fun as possible, and know that sometimes the best nights you ever have out clubbing will actually be the result of meeting guys, rather then girls, some guy randomly hooking you up with a braclet to sky lounge vip area where the drinks are free (including bottles), just for introducing yourself and talking for a bit, is a pretty awesome experience, meeting a dude that takes you to a giant 400 person rager houseparty where the house basically gets destroyed and shut down by the cops is pretty sweet, having sex... meh, you can do that pretty much any time when you have a girlfriend, just socialize and have fun, if you meet girls while you are socializing that you like, just escalate, and don't worry about if you are doing it right, or if you are doing it wrong, if it is by the book, or if you can get her, just do it for fun to see what happens, don't wait for girls to check you out, just go meet guys and girls without needing every girl you talk to, to have a high chance to fuck you, get girls to dance with you, enjoy yourself and talk to people, kiss some girls, have some drinks, don't put pressure on yourself to accomplish anything, just set maybe one mini goal that pushes you outside of what is comfortable for you depending on what it is for practise (for example, qualify one person, talk to one girl until she actually asks you to leave her alone, put your arm around one girl, try to kiss one girl, etc. etc.) depending on where you are at, practise your social skill sets rather then try to go for a home run every night when you have no practise swinging the bat, just enjoy swinging your bat for practise and forget about the home run, you might just get one by accident from wildly swinging the bat around, and eventually you will get really good at swinging the bat and home runs will start to become more consistant, but when all you are thinking about is the home run then you will put to much pressure on yourself to be babe ruth when you only just signed up for the minor leagues

GOOD LUCK

what you should do to boost up your confidence is walk in the mall, streets or park smile and say hi to random people (Men and Woman) . the second day ask them random questions Like " do you know were is the subway station or do you know where is the Marriott Hotel. " the third day when you ask them a question continue talking to them.. as an example walk to a Woman and ask
You:do you know where i can find a good Cafe"
when she tells you tell her thanks and then say
You: " wow those are nice shoes where did you get them. "
HB: do you like them?
You: Yeah you look really cute in them
HB : Oh i got it from Blah blah blah
You: i was thinking of getting them for my mom because her birthday is coming up in few weeks

and then finish it off.

later go ask another woman a different question like

You: do you have a lighter
HB: yeah
You: Wow thats a nice lighter where did you get it? ( even if its a normal lighter it wont matter because your trying to be funny)
HB: LOL.. um.. a convenience store..?!
You: never heard of it but i'll go there sometimes.

the thing about this is that it helps you to communicate with people and it boosts your confidence because when you goto a club you have thousands of questions to ask a girl that leads to a half an hour of talk.

i don't think you have to give up night game.. but remember when you go out by yourself there's some rules to remember like the 3 second rule as soon as you walk into the bar or club or whatever approach the first set you see. they dont necessarily have to be hott or even girls you just wanna get into a social mood and also to build your social proof up a little bit... you dont wanna be the guy approaching every girl in the place, but the guy whos really social and looking to have a good time


p.s. do not walk around looking for hot girls to talk to, you killing ther place when you do that,

hope this helps

Sorry man, that is a Bullshit statement.

You want a crutch.

Until you work your own game, your inner game, overcoming your AA... you won't succeed with any degree of regularity. You'll find the occasional chick, but you will always know you're limited.

Don't make excuses.

Work on yourself. There are many men here who can help - never pay for anyone's advice, ask those you trust and LEARN. Then - PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!!


RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

I feel where you're coming from. I've been here and it was a result of bad training. Was so focused on game, moving forward, and surpressing fear that I gained "robotic courage". It's where you numb your emotions and just DO. Unfortunately, other people will find you incredibly annoying and yes, creepy in this state. Just because you don't need comfort doesn't mean other people don't.

You should go out with other guys for help. You're no less of a man for doing so. Confidence is built upon success, and you need to do what works. All the balls in the world won't help if you can't build attraction and comfort.

You need to Force IoIs. Fuck the 3 second rule. That doesn't always work. What works better is to walk around and ANY eye contract you get you respond to it in some way. You can cheers your glass, you can wave, you can even be funny and point and shoot with your finger. You do this ever every single girl that looks at you. Now.. they will respond in different ways. Some positive like laugh and smile some will mirror what you did, some will give a WTF look some will just shyly look away.
Now based on responses you can go up to them a simply say... Hey and open very situational. You will never come off as a creeper this way because of the IoI forced its like an open invitation from the positive ones to come say hi...

Wouldnt this be guys that have a big time job, lots of money and would want to be around someone interesting? This is something I don't have.

what?, guys that talk to lots of people when they go out clubbing?

Yeah when you're talking about being invited to a VIP club with free bottles. Also, I wouldnt go to 400 people ragers because anyone shows up at those places.

oh now I see what you were saying, it wasn't a VIP club, it was a VIP lounge upstairs at tequila's, and I donno if he was rich

your post sort of looks like you mean, you your self have to be rich to socialize with people in order for fun nights to happen

as for the going to huge parties, suite yourself, big parties are awesome