i disagree. i think 9 out of 10 marriages at least one of the partners fucks someone else, at least sometimes, if not regularily. even if it's a whore from time to time when the dude is on a business trip, or some dude she could not resist when out with her friends with a bar. i don't see this as "loyalty" or "unloyalty".

btw, john travolta is gay.
you didn't catch my sarcasm, it must be the language barrier. i don't think a hollywood actor is the alpha male type. it's just a good actor with some charisma. al capone was an alpha male. on the non-ganster side of the spectrum, steve jobs was an alpha male. these were not your average 9-5's and they had lots of women in their life, married or not.
that's what people call an opinion. i don't think it's that easy to define "alpha male" for a species as complex as the human being. but logically, an alpha gets a lot of pussy. women are naturally drawn to strong males. he's not an alpha BECAUSE he get's lots of pussy. i think that's an important differentiator that many people misunderstand. because you learned how to pick up women, doesn't make you an alpha male. however, having internalized a lot of the alpha qualities that allow you to do so, will inevitably make you a better person over all.

on a side note, i don't think we need to argue over the meanings and definitions of certain terms or whatever, i don't think it's really productive at this point. everyone has their opinion about this, and that's ok. no one here is right or wrong. every theory has an anti-theory, and theories evolve and develop over the course of time. part of being human.

In the animal kingdom, an alpha is absolute, for survival, but.

In the human kingdom, sexual selection is only one aspect of behavior.

For example not cheating is a cultural DHV, religious and political DHVs.

The US presdident is the worlds most powerful man, if he cheated he will lose female votes. As his actions would make women feel insecure.

If the french president did not cheat, he would be considered gay and also lose the female vote.

Animals pass on genes. Men not only pass on their genes but also their values which applies to those that raise their sons. Ur sons will not protect u if u do not raise them. So having 1000 illigetimate sons does not actually increase survival value.

Some of us are superior to animals remember.

Not all men fight, some poison each other, which is why we get feeble kings. In humans it is the smartest that survives. I include total intelligence which encapsulates a reasonable amount of social intelligence.

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Alpha term, on this site is about how one comes across to women. The question is is one alpha/strong in all aspects of their lives.

Confidence is always relative. For example u maybe a really cool cat, but then someone comes into the room bigger badder more cool than u, ur confidence then drops. This guy then looks at u, and says, hey ur kinda shy aint ya.

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Shit I didn't knew that ...... well fuck Pulp Fiction

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I'm just gonna go back a little bit and talk about only the shit that I understand. Which is the concept of a one-itis. It's a rather complex thing because I don't think it always happens for the same reason... in fact I think the reasons vary much. But overall, most of those reasons could be concluded to these main things:

-Monogamy as an exaggarated belief. A beta male can justify their one-itis with the simple belief that it would be wrong if he liked multiple women at the same time EVEN if he's single. I see this belief everywhere when I'm trying to argue with people over social community or entertaining sites(facebook, 9gag).

-A sense of safety from a purpose point of view in an awkward way. Let's face it. Beta males usually have shitty lives. They might be concerned with their studies though, but usually that doesn't require much effort for them. It awkwardly gives them some kind of balance in their lives that they have this purpose, which is not gonna change any time soon: To get this one woman. They don't have to worry about not having a purpose anymore. I myself, along with several people I know, used to be in this cathegory so please don't go on about how this one is a BS...

-Falling in love with the concept of love, not the actual woman. And this is a big one. They think they're in love with the woman, but they're not. Just because the woman met their "outer" criteria, they instantly think that she will be perfect for them on the inside too. This is due to many things. Mostly lack of experience, not being socialized correctly, and being brainwashed thinking that there are no colours when it comes to women, only black and white (no racism intended lol...)

-Peer pressure. Yeah I'm talking about peer pressure with one-itis and I explain why.
1) From every single way you could think of, one information with billions of copies sieges our mind. Which is: Without the feeling of love you can't be happy. So when it comes to the beta male, he can't have love from women, but he can still feel it(or believe that he feels it). So when the first woman whom he likes comes along he just falls in love.
2) The problem of long-term friendzone is also related to this. Because they are conditioned to think that they're supposed to be friends and then it will later somehow magically become love, some sort of malicious anchor develops here, that makes them fall for every single woman they become close friends with. It is also strengthened by desperation, and the fact that they are thinking like this:"At least she allowed me to become her friend. That must mean I have better chances with her than the rest, right?"

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That's because most of us are not biologist/sociologist and understand that our knowledge of the subject are is far to limited to come up with proper reliable theories Based on some VERY basic things YOU know about evolution, and which doesn't come close to the amount of knowledge required to postulate a theory that holds any water. You show your lack of knowledge by claiming that animals don't suffer from oneitis (they do) and that we're more complex and higher evolved without defining complexity. Are we talking about genometic complexity, structural complexity, functional complexity, hierarchical complexity, sequence complexity, Grassberger’s effective measure complexity, Kolmogorov complexity, physical complexity? How do you compare our 'higher evolvedness' across different kinds of organisms within different kinds of functions within different kinds of environments?

Biology is complicated like all fucking hell, what you developed wasn't a theory, nor a working hypothesis, it wasn't even an educated guess, it's a bunch of stuff you assumed to be true cuz you don't get evolution.

Any evidence that phrases like "Alpha" and "Beta" are anything more than descriptions of social positions?

Couple of topics to mention.

1. The supposed behaviour of Beta males, taking care of the alpha males kids isn't explained by the needs of the alpha males. To explain the behaviour of the beta males you have to show how such behaviour is conductive to their survival.

2. Selfishness isn't necessarily what PUA is about, in fact much of a PUA's growth is the exact opposite. It's the recognition that other people have feelings and respond differently to you based on how you act towards them. Often people have remarked on how nice PUA's actually are (I think a couple of women's magazines have interviewed PUAs and Adam Lyons has talked about taking women to meet PUA people) it's generally because PUA's are good with people and part of that is a willingness to orientate oneself towards others.

Also this ^

The mass generalisations and poor understanding of how evolution might realistically impact psychology makes the "theorising" in this thread (from various posters) painful to read.

you what i think alpha is? making shit happen.

it's "complicated". then fuck it, let's not even try.

read about ghengis kahn.

i think a lot of people's ideas about the alpha male is heavily limited here. the president of the united states? please..... this is rediculous.

i make my own theories. i live my own reality. you can like it, or you can not. makes no difference to me. i'm still the boss.

as i said, don't like mine? go make your own.

With this kind of behaviour you just come off as an arrogant prick with preposterous tales, a total contrast of what you're (supposedly) writing about.

It's not a problem of liking your theory here, the problem is that your theory is a fallacy based on your limited knowledge about biology and accordingly, it's really hard to take you seriously. Your inflated ego doesn't help this situation either.

i care.

This argument is silly and older than dirt and it has already been answered numerous times so I'll just copy one response from another thread -

Keeping up with your ignorance and arrogance will just get you humbled in the real world.

I get laid as a nice guy King Tony, that is a myth, nice guys don't get laid is a myth. I wrote up a blog on my thoughts on nice guys and how they can still get laid here http://scienceofnaturalgame.com/2012/06 ... show-down/ . I don't really feel like getting into again over this but basically:

-Confidence gets women
-Most men lack confidence
-Most men are bad with women
-A good percentage of every type of guy is bad with women- Bad boy, nice guy, smart guy, etc.
- Every type of guy gets the girl with confidence

Being a bad boy doesn't get you laid the attitude and swagger do, but the nice guy can have both the attitude and swagger. They can have confidence, too many people confuse a nice guy with someone who lacks confidence. Most guys don't have confidence, people tend to judge off of a few select folks, nice guys get judged off of the low confidence guys.

I don't want to participate in this argument I've done this several times, it's merely my opinion and we all have our own. I was quoted so I thought I would add some more info on where I'm coming from so you get a better view of what I'm saying.

Peace and Love

Vic

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