What's up guys? I have a issue I really need help to resolve.
I believe my opener has great keywords, unthreating, and negging power.
But I can't seem to make it smooth enough for negging the target.
Here it "Ayee, sorry don't mean to bother you, but have you ever heard of bath and body work/watever? (Yeah) really from the looks of it am not really convinced, but it's a good thing u have great taste in clothes it makes up bigtime 4 your looks..."
I know i need to be smooth 4 negging her but where I need help is peacing it together to make her want more of u. Please help guys!

If you dont mind I would like to give you a siple adwice

The oppener is too long and complicated. She will smell its fake and canned. In

day game its always better to use something short and casual and then read her

reaction. Theres only 3 tipes of reactions, no more no less.

Yes (smiling, flirting with you, IOI)
No (fuck off, weird look, youre a creap)
Maybe (she talks to you but not showing much interest)

Your goal should be to approach so that the girls that already like you like you

even more and at the same time that the girls that dont like you reject you fast so

you dont waste much time on them. Rejection actually doesent hurt at all if you

dont put a lot of thought and time in the approach.

The best oppener is: I thought you looked interesting. I wanted to meet you.

If she is yes or maybe she is going to like you even more for being honest and

comfident enough to say that. You wont get any extra points by using negs or

indirect oppeners. Negs are only good for hiting on dancers in really fancy clubs.

that's not a neg, that's just being an ass. Just say hi and introduce yourself.

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"Ayee, sorry don't mean to bother you, but have you ever heard of bath and body work/watever? (Yeah) really from the looks of it am not really convinced, but it's a good thing u have great taste in clothes it makes up bigtime 4 your looks..."


no good... B&B/Works is a lotion/handsoap store not a clothing shop.

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It is not AA that scares me or affects me anymore, its leading a conversation forward and keeping her interested. AA is nothing.

Dont use that opener.

Its pretty obvious youv'e never used that, because there no addition of "I got slapped in the fucking face".

Theres a gajillion things you need to know. First off, thats being an ass. No person is suave enough to make that into a conversation starter. Two. You only need to say "hi" to open. EVER. In the club or in the day. Adding something like, 'your cute, i wanted to say hi' is simple, effective, congruent, and immediatly gets her attention.

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dude, you might as well just open with

BITCH... YOU UGLY

that is basically what your opener is at this point,

the goal is not to just piss the girl off, it really only helps to irritate a girl if you can't get her attention at all, if you already have her attention, absolutely no need what so ever to piss her off, and if you do piss her off, you better be able to keep your cool and re-frame

if you suck at doing that, then it is time for you to do more of meeting women, and less of comming up with crazy openers

the opener is seriously not important at all, you can screen for compliance with them and save yourself time, but other then that, she talks = she is opened, and that is the goal of an opener, talking, talking = successful opener, unless you are screening for something like a sense of humour, or if she has interest in you

also, be more honest man, your openers pre-frame is an incongruent load of horseshit, you are not sorry to talk with them, and you are not there to bother them either, the whole thing screams I am unsure of what I am doing here, please go easy on me, now... you bitches be ugly and you stink, but hey... you got nice clothes

now if some girl stepped to you with that opener, would you want to talk to them if they delivered that seriously?, think of it that way, lets say your definition of a girl who is slightly below the line physically for you approached you, you were totally on the fence about if you would sleep with her or not because she wasn't super ugly but she wasn't super hot, basically a freebie and it depended on personality for you, would you like that approach?, hey I don't want to bother you, but do you know about bath and body work?, cause you're ugly and it doesn't look like it, nice clothes though

typicially what do you think your reaction to this is going to be?

cool, glad you noticed im ugly and smell, well, lets go have sex now, I think I love you