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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:10 am 
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Hey guys!

This weekend was my first time going out after having read both The Game and The Mystery Method. I felt like I was being able to open most sets, but unfortunately I ran out of conversation material too quickly.

So what I will be working on is the point from immediately after the opener, the transition to the mid game where I can start running rutines.

Do you guys have any tips/ideas?

Any good books on becoming a "master conversationalist?"

/tecs

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I like that. I also like the phrase "Seduction isn't interrogation" Make interesting statements for them to feed off of.

What has worked for me: Have topics rooted in emotions so they will respond. "I love it when!" " This one movie made me so happy about life!" " I get goosebumps when I listen to ( feel good song) " " (event) gets me excited. I live for these things!"
They will jump in and if not, ask them if they've felt that before. They'll respond more so to emotions. You'll be able to pull more things out of your head when talking about the feeling rather than milking a subject dry. Girls are okay with bouncing from one subject to the other as long as the feeling is there. Emotions create desires and desires create thoughts, which turn into what you speak.

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Thanks for the advice guys!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:53 am 
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Hey guys!

This weekend was my first time going out after having read both The Game and The Mystery Method. I felt like I was being able to open most sets, but unfortunately I ran out of conversation material too quickly.

So what I will be working on is the point from immediately after the opener, the transition to the mid game where I can start running rutines.

Do you guys have any tips/ideas?

Any good books on becoming a "master conversationalist?"

/tecs
There are plenty of books but let me give you the Tony King method first:

Don't talk, let her talk instead! When you open a set, ask a few open questions and then go "Allright so im curious, tell me your story(s)" let them talk a bit, LiStEn to what she says and pick up all the relevant information about her that you can use to talk about (re-feed to her) when she runs out of shit to say.

Forcing yourself to be a conversationalist in a set is like biking up a mountain on a set of square wheels. Sure ull get there eventually but wouldnt it be that much easier to just grab a motorcycle? :)





That is a good advice, aslo I would like to let you know what helps me, after you take what is relevant try to associate that with a positive comment or funny.

For example:

Me: So tell me more about you.
HB: Im a nurse.
Me: that means that you see a lot of people naked? by the way you are smiling I know that you enjoy that!
HB: lol, ( she may correct you and go into what she does)

Remember girls love talking about their self...

Bonne chance tecs!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:27 am 
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Listen really carefully to what they're saying, but also to what you're saying looking for new topics for you guys to talk about.

Also if that doesn't work, look around! Just make up some situational stuff, but ofcourse you should try to pick something where's a 'real' topic behind.

Good luck buddy.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Yeah some good advice - especially gemini's stuff about emotions. My best piece of advice (and it's sort of emphasising one or two points made above) would be to TAKE AN INTEREST or at the very least, seem really interested even if you don't care. If you act interested, but not just "oh that sounds fun", but really interested as in "oh wow, I bet that was such a rush! I love getting a buzz from stuff like that" then you are getting on an emotional level, you're making a connection and you're showing the girl that you're interested in her rather than just nodding in agreement until she takes off her pants!


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I like that. I also like the phrase "Seduction isn't interrogation" Make interesting statements for them to feed off of.

What has worked for me: Have topics rooted in emotions so they will respond. "I love it when!" " This one movie made me so happy about life!" " I get goosebumps when I listen to ( feel good song) " " (event) gets me excited. I live for these things!"
They will jump in and if not, ask them if they've felt that before. They'll respond more so to emotions. You'll be able to pull more things out of your head when talking about the feeling rather than milking a subject dry. Girls are okay with bouncing from one subject to the other as long as the feeling is there. Emotions create desires and desires create thoughts, which turn into what you speak.
I love this! I was thinking something similar the other day if someone says that to me for example "I get goosebumps every time..." you can't help but feel it along with them. So if what if introducing a lot of positive emotions whilst in convocation that have a feeling descriptor attached will boost how positively they feel about the convocation. I'm going to try this.


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