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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:17 am 
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So in the past i have been a guy who CARES. Every number i give out i truely hope to receive a text the next morning, every crush, hoping it works out. I met a girl and fell in love, took a year to get over it stopped PUA cause i just wanted this girl (Ironically fucked a more girls than ever during this period of not approaching all the time). Now i recently got over the girl i fell in love with, and i have found i do not give 2 shits about if girls respond to texts, or if girls i have initial interest in are interested in me. At my core i am a nice guy (not a kiss ass, just a nice person to everyone) and that hasnt changed, but my aspect of caring about how things turn out has.

Is this a positive thing that will help my PUA, or do you guys think this is an extremely negative mindset will come back and bite me in the ass?

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I think actually that's one of the most important characteristic a PUA should have. If you care too much, girls see you as desperate and it turns them off.
So no matter what outcome is, don't give a shit.


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This is exactly where you want to be as a PUA. Being emotionally indifferent is key.

I think it happens to every man once he gets truly screwed by a woman he cares about. Its hard to have that same idealistic Disney movie view of romance again. You become grounded in reality and more importantly.... you learn that you don't really need a woman.

More info: http://romancecheater.com/why-you-have- ... get-women/

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PlayHer Man. I think your exactly right about the cause. Having not gotten the chance with the only girl i've ever had a strong enough feeling to call love. Thats what makes me think its a bad thing that i dont care, all though i really think it will lead to a lot more pussy haha and im in college so fuck it

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:25 pm 
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So in the past i have been a guy who CARES. Every number i give out i truely hope to receive a text the next morning, every crush, hoping it works out. I met a girl and fell in love, took a year to get over it stopped PUA cause i just wanted this girl (Ironically fucked a more girls than ever during this period of not approaching all the time). Now i recently got over the girl i fell in love with, and i have found i do not give 2 shits about if girls respond to texts, or if girls i have initial interest in are interested in me. At my core i am a nice guy (not a kiss ass, just a nice person to everyone) and that hasnt changed, but my aspect of caring about how things turn out has.

Is this a positive thing that will help my PUA, or do you guys think this is an extremely negative mindset will come back and bite me in the ass?
K let me explain to you how it works, cause THE DO NOT GIVING A FUCK, is kind of confusing... Ok, you do give a fuck(about your finances, your appearance, being the best you can be, trying your best etc.... LIFE)

But when it comes to women not giving a fuck means you are YOU, and you are not calculating, you do and act how you want to act, your own awesomeness, talk about whatever the fuck you want etc... Without an AGENDA,( in other words i am not doing this to impress her, or win her over)... This are actions of a guy that has ABUNDANCE, then nice guy caring persona comes across needy... Now you will not be a jerk but a good guy NOT A NICE GUY(nice guys are usually needy push overs) here from heartless bitches international:





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Why "Nice Guys" are often such LOSERS
You hear it all the time: "He was such a NICE Guy, and she's such a Heartless Bitch for dumping him."

I get letters from self-professed Nice Guys, complaining that women must WANT to be treated like shit, because THEY, the "Nice Guy" have failed repeatedly in relationships. This is akin to the false logic that "Whales are mammals. Whales live in the sea. Therefore, all mammals live in the sea."

If you have one bad relationship after another, the only common denominator is YOU. Think about it.

What's wrong with Nice Guys? The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys (tm) are hideously insecure. They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of attention to him.

Nice Guys exude insecurity -- a big red target for the predators of the world. There are women out there who are "users" -- just looking for a sucker to take advantage of. Users home-in on "Nice Guys", stroke their egos, take them for a ride, add a notch to their belts, and move on. It's no wonder so many Nice Guys complain about women being horrible, when the so often the kind of woman that gets attracted to them is the lowest form of life...

Self-confident, caring, decent-hearted women find "Nice Guys" to be too clingy, self-abasing, and insecure.

Nice Guys go overboard. They bring roses to a "lets get together for coffee" date. They try to buy her affections with presents and fancy things. They think they know about romance, but their timing is all wrong, and they either come-on too strong, too hard and too fast, OR, they are so shy and unassertive, that they hang around pretending to be "friends", in the hope that somehow, someway, they will get the courage up to ask her out for a "date".

They are so desperate to please that they put aside their own needs, and place the object of their desire on a pedestal. Instead of appreciating her, they worship her. We are only human, and pedestals are narrow, confining places to be -- not to mention the fact that we tend to fall off of them.

They cling to her, and want to be "one" with her for fear that if she is out of sight, she may disappear or become attracted to someone else. A Nice Guy often has trouble with emotional intimacy, because he believes that if she learns about the REAL person inside, she will no longer love him.

Nice Guys are always asking HER to make the decisions. They think it's being equitable, but it puts an unfair burden of responsibility on her, and gives him the opportunity to blame her if the decision was an unwise one.

Nice Guys rarely speak up when something bothers them, and rarely state clearly what it is they want, need and expect. They fear that any kind of conflict might spell the end of the relationship. Instead of comprimising and negotiating, they repeatedly "give in". When she doesn't appreciate their sacrifice, they will complain that, "Everything I did, I did for her.", as if this somehow elevates them to the status of martyrs. A woman doesn't want a martyr. She wants an equal, caring, adult partner.

Nice Guys think that they will never meet anyone as special as she is. They use their adoration as a foundation for claiming that "no one will ever love her as much as I do." Instead of being a profound statement of their devotion, this is a subtle, but nasty insult. It is akin to saying to her: "You are a difficult person, and only *I* can ever truly love you, so be thankful I'm here."

The nice guy -needs- to believe that he is the best person for the object of his desires, because otherwise his insecurities will overrun him with jealousies and fear. The truth of the matter is that there are many people out there who can be a good match for her. We rarely stop loving people we truly care about. Even if we no longer continue the relationship, the feelings will continue... But love isn't mutually exclusive. We can (and do) love many people in our lives, and romantic love is really no different. Though he may love her immensely, there will likely be other people who have loved her just as much in her past, and will love her just as much in the future. The irony of it all is: "Who would want to go out with someone who was inherintly unlovable anyways?"

More than loving the woman in his life, a Nice Guy NEEDS her. "She is my Life, my only source of happiness..." YECH! What kind of a burden is that to place on her? That SHE has to be responsible for YOUR happiness? Get a grip!

Another mistake Nice Guys make is to go after "hard luck" cases. They deliberately pick women with neuroses, problems, and personality disorders, because Nice Guys are "helpers". A Nice Guy thinks that by "helping" this woman, it will make him a better, more lovable person. He thinks it will give him a sense of accomplishment, and that she will appreciate and love him more, for all his efforts and sacrifice. He is usually disappointed by the results.

This ultimately boils down to the fact that Nice Guys don't like themselves. Is it any wonder women don't like them? In order to truly love someone else, you must first love yourself. Too often Nice Guys mistake obsession for "love".

Get this Guys: INSECURITY ISN'T SEXY. IT'S A TURNOFF.

You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it. Only then will you be attractive to the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm 
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The saying "not giving a fuck" is a bit vague and ambiguous. I think it was Kasabi who mentioned it in a thread, but those who truly don't give a fuck are the ones in jail because of rape, murder, theft, assault, etc. You don't want that. You are educated, or have a good job, because you DO give a fuck. If you are some bum fuck who sleep on people's couches, you probably don't care much.

Is what you want is to not be reactive and not constantly "playing it safe". Seeking her approval and pinging off of her, such as checking if she likes what you said, comes down to the subcommunication level and can be felt.

I have always been a nice guy but have been working on it lately, i'll even jokingly say "it looks like shit" when someone got a new t-shirt or whatever. Then of course i'll smile and it makes it funny. Woman are attracted to boldness and taking risky moves (such as escalating), so caring if she rejects you or not is a turn off.

A better phrase is, "Appearing to not give a fuck if she approves of you or not, you are indifferent" I say appearing because you DO give a fuck if you are approaching her.. that's like saying i'm at a restaurant but am not hungry.

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Thanks skills, I saw that when it was first released.. finally a post from you that is filled with value! No offense, but it just seems like you're always either arguing with someone, or just trying to push your reality/beliefs onto others. I'd be quite surprised if you didn't come back to lash out at me for that. :lol:

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Thanks skills, I saw that when it was first released.. finally a post from you that is filled with value! No offense, but it just seems like you're always either arguing with someone, or just trying to push your reality/beliefs onto others. I'd be quite surprised if you didn't come back to lash out at me for that. :lol:

That is your perception, not the fact, and your are welcome, is hard not to argue around here, with the amount of crap that is posted, like paying for hookers, hooking up with dudes that are transvestites or having a visible boner as a tool to pick up, oh shit my bad i forgot those are your believes and realities, i'd be quite surprised if you didn't come back to lash out at me for that :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:34 am 
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not giving a fuck...

in my pua journey it manifests itself this way and in this order:


not giving a fuck #1) chosing your own path in life/unplugging from group think. ex. following your own fucking heart and mind. how to get it? being a chode and paying the price

not giving a fuck #2) letting go of outcome. ex. escalating super fast on a random stranger. how to get it? become frustraited while sarging lol

not giving a fuck #3) alowing yourself to behave your way. ex. being very sexual to a girl infront of her friends. how to get it? going out. breaking out of your comfort zone and becoming more in tune with your personality

and somewhere along those 3, this fuck is disposed of: having little emotional response. ex. girl screams at me i keep my cool. how to get it? self amusement and abundance create a super strong reality.

all these are degrees and bits of not giving a fuck mentality. its actually a very vague and broad term that shouldn't really be taken at face value because its much much deeper than that


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Thanks skills, I saw that when it was first released.. finally a post from you that is filled with value! No offense, but it just seems like you're always either arguing with someone, or just trying to push your reality/beliefs onto others. I'd be quite surprised if you didn't come back to lash out at me for that. :lol:

That is your perception, not the fact, and your are welcome, is hard not to argue around here, with the amount of crap that is posted, like paying for hookers, hooking up with dudes that are transvestites or having a visible boner as a tool to pick up, oh shit my bad i forgot those are your believes and realities, i'd be quite surprised if you didn't come back to lash out at me for that :wink:
I knew it! Did you do a search on me? :shock: Hope you aren't this creepy with chicks !
Oh and please refrain from mentioned trannies on this public internet forum before I get turned on and open that section of my fap folder :oops:

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not giving a fuck...

in my pua journey it manifests itself this way and in this order:


not giving a fuck #1) chosing your own path in life/unplugging from group think. ex. following your own fucking heart and mind. how to get it? being a chode and paying the price

not giving a fuck #2) letting go of outcome. ex. escalating super fast on a random stranger. how to get it? become frustraited while sarging lol

not giving a fuck #3) alowing yourself to behave your way. ex. being very sexual to a girl infront of her friends. how to get it? going out. breaking out of your comfort zone and becoming more in tune with your personality

and somewhere along those 3, this fuck is disposed of: having little emotional response. ex. girl screams at me i keep my cool. how to get it? self amusement and abundance create a super strong reality.

all these are degrees and bits of not giving a fuck mentality. its actually a very vague and broad term that shouldn't really be taken at face value because its much much deeper than that
^ EXCELLENT! You get it dude!

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