I've been taking my daughter to Taekwondo lessons and one of the instructors is hb9, 4th degree black. She gives me a shit load of eye contact. It always seems that every time I look out onto the mats to see what my girl is doing, the hb is looking at me. I haven't picked up on any other body language cues but she has had lots of training on how to hide and not telegraph her intent through body language. There are obvious logistical barriers here in this environment as well as possible ethical ones for her. We had a brief convo the other day as I sat down on a bench right beside her and opened her about a tattoo on her foot, but no man with any integrity will game with an adolescent child in his lap! Lol!

We will be going to a tournament with the school and I'm going to try to isolate her then. The only other obstacle will be my ex. We are on good terms and remain friends. She will be there and might try to cockblock me.

I also noticed that the hb has started showing my girl attention in a way that she doesn't give to the other kids. Kinda like teachers pet but playful in a way. It may be nothing, though.

Any advice? We're in this for the long haul. My girl loves TKD so I project at least 4 years here at this school.

Just be careful! and remember you are at the tournament for your daughter and she should be your number one priority! You don't want to upset your ex and have her start an argument in front of your daughter or have your daughter see something she should not, also spend time and bond with your daughter! If she is young it is an important time in her life! the relationship you and her have in the next few years will dictate what kind of women she grows up to be so be the best father you can be! Im sure you are a good father but always remember your daughter always comes first!

That being said no I would not try to isolate the teach this weekend, I would however get her number and tell her you are going to take her out when you guys get back from the tournament, game her, and get her number, this way you can take her out, the both of you are alone, and your ex is not there to screw things up for you!

Try to bait her for a kino. If she touches you first, you win.

Here's a sample, field tested kino bait.

You: I want to be a Six Sigma black belt. Are Six Sigmas good?
Her: What? Six Sigma?
You: I searched the web and it's a kind of project management martial arts. It's based on Kaizen... Muda... Kanban... Japanese lean production techniques. Probably some Joonbi, Sijak, Dojang, Jampong and Chopsuey on the side.

Calibrate after her reactions. If she knows Six Sigma and Japanese lean production techniques, you'll get her kino. If she doesn't get that, she'll probably kino you for the Korean words mix up.

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oh and remember she can probably kick your ass haha so you better call her the next day! haha

I doubt the tournament will be the best place to isolate her, usually instructors are judging or helping the other judges, and they're usually held in a gym like open building where there arnt very many 'secret rooms'. She'll probly be to busy to go on a escapade with you.
Truthfully the easiest way to get closer to her is to join class, if there's a free 2 week trial or something you could use that as an excuse (almost all the schools I know have a deal like that) And if you do partner activities you could 'accidentally' get paired up with her.
And in any karate kino is made 100x easier, so if your nervous about it dont worry

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I really appreciate the replies and tips, guys. I will just enjoy our tourney and not stress about it with the ex there. I will be looking for kino and reading her body language cues.

Dark- her kick my ass? Lol that's what I'm hoping for as long as it's back at mine

Go for it.

She may be a black belt but she really wants a real man to pin her down, dominate her and fuck her until she barks:)

FUCK!!!

I went into the dojo to pick my girl up for the weekend and there's my ex chatting with my target. This is fucked up. Now, my ex is older than me by 10 years, and she's a good person but she is extremely extroverted. I can't stress that enough. She can be close friends with anyone in less than 30 minutes. That's just who she is. She's very friendly.

So, she's just doing what she does, talking to my target. Obviously the ex doesn't know that I have a target. So she's not there cock blocking me, but that could ultimately be the outcome depending, of course, on whether the hb likes her or not. And if she's like every other normal person with a pulse, she'll like my ex.

So my question is, can I use my ex as a dhv in any way or is this dlv and end of story?

IMHO.. if she likes your ex and thinks your ex holds value as a person, then it is surely a DHV for you. You a pre-selected by another woman who chose you to have kids with her, so its not a bad thing.

If this girl and your ex go back years, then it could be a problem but a 5 minute friendship wont be enough.

I think, and with the greatest of respect, you need to make your move now. Doing it directly, but gently..
Perhaps tell the HB.. that you think she is pretty good at teaching, but you think she would get her arse kicked in a fight.. when she bites back tell her to prove how good she is.. invite her over to yours for a proper dual. Give her a little wink when you say it and do it in an alpha way without a smile. If she rejects you, and you dont want to pursue it further, you can backtrack and say you were messing about anyway. If she plays along, then try and make a date to meet. I only say backtrack here because you will see her on a weekly basis and in this situation and may not want to make it awkward.

The more you stand and 'watch' and the more she sees it... the more you become the creep/beta guy with his tongue out. Act swiftly and show her you have balls.

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Bingo.

Frame control.

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How am I in control of that frame? I don't see how I can gain control of the pre-selection.
I really value your opinion, I'm just having trouble seeing this.

If you have any sort of a cool relationship with your ex, then it's not a bad thing. She won't destroy you to the instructor, she may not even discuss you... BUT - in the mind of the instructor, you were a man your ex wanted to have a child with. If she holds your ex in any sort of esteem, that only helps your image in her eyes.

Either the IOIs are there or they aren't... If they are, you'll already be ahead of the curve. She'll see you as someone she could be with before you even really make a move. Your ex will have already helped plant that seed...


RR

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