We've probably all seen it. That one girl in the bar that has that crazy energy level, pushes off all the guys. Dances so sexy that everyone stares, thinks she is queen of the world.

Any advice to make things happen with such girls and blasting through their Sky high bitch shield? I'm sure if you make out with that type of girl, history is made for all the AFC's in the bar.

The girl I'm dealing with has this sky-high bitch shield as well and thinks she's all that (to her credit she's easily a HB9 imo).

I'm curious how to deal with this as well.

Beat her up. Way better than a neg,


But in all seriousness...fellas a lot of the girls I've dated I would personally put on a 9 rating level. If you're into Megan fox types or ones that look cuter with a hard body etc. the fact is every girl is different. If she has a high I'm queen of the world attitude, not much you CAN do. If this is in a social circle or school context....the only thing you can do is get her alone and hit on her otherwise too much groupthink.

Realistically tough call, the girl surrounded by so many guys as options but realistically girls like this think they will be young forever, until they hit 30 and wonder what the fuck happened.

Move on guys. Many other smoking girls with amazing smiles and personalities.

1) Be equally awesome.

2) Don't give her the attention she craves (ideally because you're too busy enjoying yourself without her).

3) Wait.

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One trick, I do its to took out your phone or a camera, just go in with a wing or yourself. Ask for a picture because they are fun. Match the energy.

After it you can either slow the energy down with talking or join the dance.

Be the God-destroyer then. Out do her energy and dont give in like every other guy in there. If you steal the spot light from her, being the type she is, she will want it back. Be prepared for shit test and Hoops she will throw at you. She will try to make you summit to her dont fall for it. If you treat her like a god, then she is, if you treat her like any regular girl, then she is just a regular girl.

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this should be called the Satan Method

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be hot, react less, escalate, don't give up unless rejected

She shuts down all guys because she is waiting for a man like her: an arrogant douchebag. These types of girls are the ones that the "I don't give a fuck" attitude works the best. You can really go off with your negs and let your cocky ego emerge. The only time you should not be teasing her is when she complies and even then you should not take complimenting too far. Rapport is critical however. Don't break it with your insults, use body language to your advantage. Usually they have an agressive body language that is easy to match. You must be the guy that is a challenge, that she just can't figure. "Why is he rude at one moment but says I'm cute at the other?" "Why did he seem to hit on me yesterday but doesn't give me any attention today?"
These are the types of questions she should be asking herself.

Of course you need an interesting life to back up this arrogant frame. Don't even bother if you don't have anything interesting going on. These girls smell a fake from a million miles away.

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Like 870 said, be equally awesome.

Here´s how to do that:

1. Dont buy her shit. Everybody else does and plays by her rules, meaning she has the power.

2. Change focus. Dont pick one of the topics she provides, she picks them because she is good at them. Come up with other stuff that she isnt the best at.

3. Dont be hypnotized by her GOD mode, not paying attention may be more interesting than paying attention.

4. Be yourself and dont apologize for it. This sounds stupid buut really, it isnt. Be the best self you can and if something isnt exactly what she wants it to be, thats her problem. It is who you are and it is only wrong if she can decide it is, not if you decide.

5. You set the rules. Dont play by her rules, they are made to fit her and empower her. The stronger your inner game, the easier it is to make others play by your rules.

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the last couple posts are right on.

i would also add that with this type of girl, you can really be a dick. just, KEEP IT PLAYFUL. you don't want her thinking you're insulting her, then her bitch shield will go up higher.

be unimpressed and tease her heavily, ideally in front of her friends (but make sure they laugh at her, otherwise it will have the opposite effect).

be a challenge. gilrs like this are so self impressed they may even say stuff like, "i can .... because i'm cute!" of "because guys like me" or "everyone likes me". laugh at her! ask her if she's ever considered a career as a professional comedian. break the cycle. let her know you're not a sheep like the rest. she will respect you for it and it will spark attraction if she's having a kickass time with you.

jokingly tell her she's a dumbass. there's a lot of stuff you can get away with as long as:

1. it's not boring

2. it's not interpreted as a real insult

3. hold your frame

4. don't appologize. ever. if you see you've hurt her, a "just kidding" or "i was playing with you" will suffice. then, tone it down a bit but keep teasing.

5. at some point you'll want to start building comfort. you can keep it up, but don't overtease her either. you should have a good feeling for when she's ready and interested in getting to know YOU. throw in a tease or neg now and then, but focus the convo. on establishing a real connection or you'll just be a cool guy she chills with from time to time.

6. you should be physically escalating throught the whole thing. make it seem like a natural progression.

the good thing about these types of girls is that once you have her interest and she's decided she's into you, the resistance you get should be pretty much at a low level, if any at all.



most important point: playing with her should be FUN for YOU. if it's not, eject. there's no need to stick around unless you're enjoying it.