In the past few months, I've really seen great improvement in my game, mostly thanks to this forum! So for that, I would like to thank everyone here.

But recently I've realized I'm terrible at turning things physical! Whether it's simple kino, or an intense make out session, it always takes me so long to get going!

I was thinking about this a few days ago, and then I really noticed how big of an issue it is when I was out on the weekend with some friends.

There was a girl who was a friend of a friend, and so it was an easy open.
The whole night I was alpha, she was showing IOIs, laughing at my jokes, even ones that no one else did and honestly I should have got her number.

But the thing is, I just didn't know how to appropriately start touching her, and this always happens.
When I'm talking to a girl I'll try a simple hand on her back. But it just feels awkward. Sometimes to the point where I've had women say "dude, stop touching me" far before it's anything sexual...
When I try a kino routine, I find I fuck it up because I cannot focus! (A.D.D sucks)

I feel like this is a common issue, so what are some ways you guys have gotten over this issue?
WC

I had the same problem way back in my AFC days. The key to Game is not just technique but evolving to a more bad ass version of yourself. Sounds like you are thinking to much about it which is making it awkward. The key is to capitalize on her emotions of happiness with kino.

Check out great video from Gambler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjK4BRBU ... ure=relmfu

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Fitzcarraldo,
Rising PUA

here is an idea for you man,

go out, a couple nights for the next few weeks, walk up to girls that have absolutely no social connection to you what so ever,

your goal is just, tell them you came to talk to them because you find them attractive, from that point, put your arm around them, take it off when you don't feel comfortable or it feels off to you to leave it there, when you feel comfortable again, just put it back on again, if you feel the need to have some sort of ''routine'' to frame this for them and yourself (if that makes you feel more comfortable about it)

absolutely do not make the goal of this to bed a girl, while practising this, just do this to get over your fear and improve, not to get girls into you using kino, if you get laid as a result, cool beans, but forget about getting the girls you are using this on, they are just practise girls, first 50 don't count

just keep repeating the old MM stuff or some of my personal fav's, ''im so cold, warm me up'', ''usually I charge girls $5 to touch me, but you're a cutie, you can touch for free'', ''man your lucky im gay, or we would probably be making out right now'', ''huuuuuuuuahhhhhhhhh, oldest trick in the book'' (yawn as you put your arm around her)

^ there are plenty more you can think of, just put your arm around her after she knows you are interested, easy as that, if she is interested too, she will know very quickly and escalate with you, rather then shut you down, expect compliance to get rocky somewhere around making out, hugging and touching is fairly easy to get compliance for, even girls that are not interested in you will usually comply at low levels fairly easily, and the girls that are non compliant save you a load of time, if she takes your arm off her, then move onto a different girl, something that small being shut down = no sex (at least that night anyways)

after you are comfortable with that, you can just touch when it feels natural for you, but showing your intentions before hand a realizing she didn't try to kill you as a result might help your mind re-frame that touching her will be met with the same results, EVERYTHING IS A DAMN COMPLIANCE TEST, keep note of the compliance, and build it

you can even break the touch barrier on open if that helps you, just open the girl by tapping her on the shoulder to get her attention

GOOD LUCK

Sounds like you cannot kino, and you are extremely fucking nervous doing it and do it at illogical times in the conversation (worse off it sounds like you are lingering your touches).

Learn how to kino (not long) and logically WHEN. If you don't know WHEN, you are FUCKED.