I am 28 years old-approached more than 1500 hbs in 3 years



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:13 am 
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aha.. Anxiety problem and stressing out about the outcome.. Working for you? yeah, 1 out of 750 times.. This problem normally goes away with experience, but in your case it's something different.. Go into details.. tell us exactly how you approach and how you play your game.. Don't be afraid no one will judge you if you are being honest about this
I don't think it helps since an expert should watch me in field and tell me where the hell I am doing wrong.
I have a great opener which hold the set for at least 5 min with it.It works best with hb who are 8 or upper.I open very well with no fear at all. I have become so aggressive in opening.
I start kino from the beginning and ask the set how do they know each other and how long etc.. then I tease them a little and see which one is more responsive. and then try to guess what she does for living( Idon't guess I guess.) she probably asks me where I am from and what I do. Depends on the person I tease her or I give him direct answer or ask them to guess,
Then I try to create some bond and try to find what we have in common with target. Usually this is a hard part for me. I'll ask most of the time what is her 3 best qualities.
If I get to this point I can get the girl's number.To get her number I'll try some routines the best one is palm reading I'll tell her some cold reading and tease her that her lines are short etc ..(some bullsh**t like that lol) and I know how to get the number from reading the palm
Most of the time the problem is that she is with her friends and it's really hard for me to isolate her.Also,I get much better response from hbs over 30 than hbs in their early 20.Some Girls in early 20s get bored easily.
The thing is that I know some routines but they are either too long or doesn't suite me.I know cube and 5 questions strawberry etc..
I think my biggest problem is my reactions to what they say and also not having a strong wingman.
If you guys can see any obvious holes/error sin what I do please tell me.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:17 pm 
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Hey guys,
I went out for sarging last night. It seems I got the basic skill finally after 3 years.
So everything went better than expected. Every set I opened I got number close except one that another guy tried to cock block me.
The best part of night was the last one, which I number closed ,kiss closed and finger fucked the hb in the bar and we went to her house.
The only issue was that she was kinda drunk and so tired and although we were both naked in her bed she didn't allow me to fuck her.I was kinda nice too I tried 3 times and she told I am drunk and tired let's do it in the morning.
Anyways, in the morning she told she don't like to feel slut and she has never brought guys home before.Also she was jokingly said I missed my chance last night.She wanted to give BJ but didn't happen.I didn't have the feeling for fuck anyways too.She told me let's hang out and let's see how it goes.
Anyway, that was my first nightstand after 3 years I think it was good but I don't know if I could've done better and f-closed her at night.Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:59 am 
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Your doing fine. It seems like you were more prepared if you number closed all those sets. If the girl was truly drunk you should not have sex with her as that could land you in jail depending on her feelings the next day...not a good look.

It seems like this chick dissed you a little lying in the bed and not fucking , and joking about you blew your chance. I don't like that.

A lot of guys don't close the deal, because they don't want to fail. The prefer to have to sexual tension than to risk going for the pussy and fail. But, "Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." I Imagine since you have not had a girl in 3 years that you probably were a little timid with this girl when it came to fucking. With that said you can't just pull her pants down and bend her over. You have to escalate and arouse her.

Now millions of guys have been in the same position. The beg for pussy, the cry for pussy, the lie for pussy, the brag for pussy...and girls are used to this and its lame.

Guys and girls both like sex. At all times you should talk like its something you both want. In this situation diminish the importance of sex. "Sex is for fun. Sex is for fun. Its entertainment that you and me can both enjoy. Movies hype sex up like its some grand life changing experiences. Its fun don't get me wrong, but afterwards we're going to get up and go to work in the morning."

Another approach is to get her in an affirmative mind like a salesman. For example,

you are a reasonable girl right? (yes)
And you like me right? (Yes)
And you know I like you right? (Yes)
And we had a lot of fun together right? (Yes)
So if your reasonable, You like me and I like you and we had a lot of fun together sex would be alot of fun together, right? (Yes)


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:39 pm 
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If you are willing to get rejected so many times you should quit trying
and go for a shock & Awe approach.

Stelar method
the apocalypse opener.

Just walk to a girl that looks dtf And say

i want to be honest to you i find you attractive and want to take you home.

Or say hi
How are you
what are you gonna do later
wanna come with me home?


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