Hey everyone I've been lurking these forums for quite some time and just made my introduction a few weeks ago and am ashamed to admit I honestly haven't been doing much to fight against the cause other than reading. You can find my introduction topic somewhere in the third or fourth page. June 26th post date.

Anyway to keep things on topic: I've been reading various recommendations from some people and got ahold of many of the popular books but have not dived too much into them other than the first few chapters of The Mystery Method, before I realized it really didn't apply to me (although I was catching on to the terms etc)

As my introduction topic states, I am 19 YO virgin, who often draws comparisons in looks to josh groban (similarity is uncanny) and keanu reeves by some of my friends so my confidence is more or less solid. My main goal is to achieve success with ladies and develop somewhat of a charm to keep them coming, all while making it a mission to lose my virginity ASAP.

My main fear isn't really AA, since I can often man up and just go for it, but its the thought of coming off as a complete AFC, the fear of not knowing what to say/running out of things to say and just completely standing there looking like a fool. I want to be able to successfully have a smooth, seemingly effortlessly conversation with women, to know what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. I want to be able to have the ability to potentially successfully close anywhere. At the county fair, at the mall, at school, in the club, at the bar, when introduced by a mutual friend, you name it! Even if I am not able to create an attraction, my goal would be to improve my lifestyle whether it would be by setting myself up to meet new friends/people that I can party with/go out with or get invited places.

If anyone could point me in the right direction or even offer any advice, I would really appreciate it. I've been holding out so long and I'm ready to get out of my shell and just make it happen. Thanks a lot and in advance!

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Interplanetary Good Vibe Zone

#1. This is gonna be a really long process. Especially if your a virgin. Minimum 1 year if your lucky. Getting good with women isn't just about improving outer game, but is also about your inner game. One advantage you do have is your age. Lots of girls your age wanna party and have fun. Use it to your advantage.

#2. As far as style of gaming goes. There is either direct or indirect. Pick was most fun for you and start learning it. Don't worry about which is the best. The only way your gonna find which system is the best for you is by learning it, and using it infield. Everyone is different. A lot of guys who practice pick up and got good tried out many different system and failed over and over until they found out what works best for them. Is the only way, no shortcuts. In the end, your just gonna be yourself and get women.

#3. Don't read more then you have to. Is been proven that this does more harm then good. This is the biggest problem in the community right now and is messing up the new guys. So, if you can't open, you should not even worry about how to number close. If you can't number close, you should not even worry about where to take her on dates. You get the point.

If your up for it, Yes, pick up does work. But it's a challenge, and your gonna have to be ready to screw up a lot. Just make sure you learn from it, instead of going home and crying. The material that's out there right now is only cutting your learning time in half.

You can have pussy next week. Half the game is mental. So if your mind is right you half way there. This means you take responsibility for your own feelings, that means you you always demand respect, and that means there are no situations where you disintegrate mentally (ala oneitis, jealousy, insecurity).

When you approach a female disarm her by giving her a compliment then asking for advice. Then ask for her info. Then offer an identity statement. Then transition into more deeper things with the goal of showing your strengths and arousing pleasant emotions. Talk for atleast 3-5 minutes. Then exit.

My text game is impeccable. (Text game is about short one liners that get an "LOL " or like me a "LMAO" and you want to create sexual tension) My phone game is topnotch. (Phone game is more about that pleasant feeling but you are asking questions to figure out all her likes and dislikes and you listen to her emotions to gage how strong they are. Also you figure out the things she wants to do. you want to know the girl so you know what you are dealing with.)

Arrange a date. Go to eat, go walking...just somewhere where you can talk.

Think of about 10 topics that you want to tell her about. Once again strenghts, interesting things about you. Also have a few good lines that you created yourself (a good line is unexpected but very sensible and impactful). The whole goal is to have the conversation to be very pleasant and very comfortble. Never show awkwardness or fear even if you are afraid. Then tell her to come to your spot or tell her lets go back to her spot. Kiss her then.....

You must hit on her while you have good conversation or you will be considered just a friend.

Also, you always want to read how the woman feels. If she ever gets a bad feeling about anything about you, you have to address that as soon as possible. The point of the game is for the woman to feel so good about you that she can't help but want you....To put her in heat. The problem with reading about many techniques is that you worry about the technique and forget the purpose of technique and that is to change the woman's feelings about you.

Also, you will have to check women for disrespecting you, but you have to do this in a firm but gentle way. Think of a wall now think of a wall with pillows on it. So you have to be firm but not so hard that woman says fuck you.

Also, occassionally you may have to neg a woman and this does work, probably more so than anything but this is using negative emotion to attract and will get girls that want you for their egos and not because the actually like you.

my advice is you have to go out there and put forth effort. think of it like a speech or play first you practice and practice what you read or learn and then try it out. Later after you get that part down and you keep doing its becomes imporv. Its jsut seems natural to you now. Everyone fails at one point of time and not everything you read or learn will help you in a certain situation. The fact that you learn from your mistakes. Like the poster ouch pointed out is very good info. take it step by step. i remember when i was learning i wanted to try everything all at once and just ended up over analizing things and getting more frustrated. In learning you want to also have fun. having fun is the key point. you dont want to try something that you dont have fun in. even if its sucessful.

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first and foremost thank you guys for your help. all is welcome and thoroughly appreciated. I understand achieving "moderate" success on a journey to become a PUA for the most part is definitely going to take some time, I get that part. However, It definitely shouldn't take me a year to get laid, first and foremost I am not as much of a lost cause as It would appear. As I said, I'm confident on my looks for the most part and admit to being better looking than definitely more than half the dudes I see with girlfriends everywhere.

I know it becomes a matter of trial and error for the most part, but where can I start? Obviously the newbie mission etc, but what I mean is what should I read or where can I start practicing even if its just small talk with no intention of taking it further.
As I stated in my introduction topic, I am in a weird situation, considering I am not old enough to go to bars or clubs here in the united states and thus that limits me to parties/school other locations so this is where I felt disqualified by the Mystery Method (most of it seemed to take place at a bar situation/night game)

I do count with the slight advantage of living near Mexico, and I do go casually to Tijuana for night clubs/bars, so I could definitely make up for the lack of attendance here, but my only problem would be the game change. I speak fluent spanish, in fact it was my first language, but would it really be as simple as translating some of the methods to another language or how would I go on adapting to this?

As previously stated, I want to get all the basics down, whether its learning some canned openers/situational conversation started or questions/games to play/ask to continue the conversation and lead to a smooth number close. I know that from there I will be able to start catching on to things. One of my major issues has always been "Shit tests". I tend to fall like a sucker when women tell me they are not interested in certain things, that they are just there to have a fun night out with their girlfriends, you name it. So one of my priorities is also learning how to react/what to say in any given situation in order to come off unscathed. Any suggestions on which book I should begin with or things to try? I am tired of my friend not wanting to go out and have some fun, so at this point its looking like I will have to go out of my comfort zone to get things done.

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Interplanetary Good Vibe Zone

Go to the PUA Lounge forum here, and click on the stickied topic "Chief's guide to outer game." Then go out, talk to women, see what works, what doesn't. Then pick something else. There is no "best method" at any level because we are all different.

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