No worries slick.
You seem to have taken a slight offense to the opener thing. Wasn't meant to be offensive, just helping.

Switch it up tho...if they sense you're giving them a "line" that's not genuine you lose right off the bat. Just...be genuine Is my best advice lol.

But I enjoy reading about your progress! I've been there!
Don't give up it'll be the dumbest mistake you ever make!

Good luck slick!

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Mike D

hey buddy, first thing first, Slick you're doing pretty well and having some guys giving you advice is a proof to that determination!!
I've been reading all your FR on here, support you all the way.

You have the most awesome dad, and the best wingman. Jealous right now, if only I have my dad as a wing man but too bad we aren't that close

The fact that you get them hook of the opener is a good thing, but like you mentioned, the problem is not able to carry on the conversation. I know this might sound repetitive and vague coz I've told you before in the past. You should not care what you're going to say to her. Instead when you go blank, go back to the classic style of observation and cold read thing, it has helped me before in the past and telling you I was bad at carrying conversation is an understatement.

It might go against your principle of doing only natural, which is totally fine, but this method actually help you on the way to being routine free once you done it enough if you know what I mean.

I used to have a set of stuff to say when I first learn this because knowing how bad I was in conversation. I usually do Opener > Conversation > Cold Read > Rinse Wash Repeat. And you can ask questions along the way.

I once went out deliberately wanted to not plan anything to say and I ended up telling her "I do not know what to say to you".

I think that classic quote about "Is not what you say, is how you say it" is money and under rated. I just make fun out of it.

Slick you're doing good, just keep pushing, trust me on that
Seeing you doing the approaches just puts me to shame, I haven't been doing a lot of cold approaches, not as many as I want to but recently been doing a bit more social circle thing. Trying to get on with a work colleague.

Keep us posted Slick!!

Jim

Slick. There is nothing wrong with your opener. There is nothing wrong with your game. Don't listen to these AFC's and trolls. You just need to stick in there and not come out of set. Just assume she is already your girlfriend and stay in set. If you have nothing to say, that's fine. Just keep quiet and give eye contact. The silence develops some sexual tension which is fun also genuine. Communication is 93% non-verbal. If you have a good energy coming out of you, doesn't matter what openers you use. So just stick in there. Don't leave unless she asks you to say fuck off. Until then, keep following her. One of the major mistakes of JACKAL's game is that once you open, he says you can't follow the girl... which is utter crap. Following is not needy. It is a sign of persistence. Persistence is major part of any game. The girls test you mainly for persistence. Shit tests are a test for persistence. If you really liked her and thought she was cute, would you give up on her ? If you lied to her, she will test it by giving shit tests or asking you to go away. All you need to do is stay there. This is why I have to tell everyone who wants to join JACKAL crew how he seriously fucks up your game and he knows nothing about picking up women. If you want to find some wings, do join his crew but if you think he can teach you game, you are sure to get your natural skills destroyed by him.

I continued going out during the weekend. Unfortunately, I only did 2 approaches on Saturday and 1 on Sunday. I remember about a month ago, I was working on staying in set longer, so I tried the no ejection challenge. I put on my iPod stopwatch, put it in my pocket, and approached a 2set on the street. When the interaction was over, I took out my iPod. I had been in set for 25 minutes. I appreciate all the feedback. I will do my best to incorporate observations and cold reads. The main thing I'm going to be working on is not ejecting. Your encouragement is giving me the motivation to continue approaching every day. I'm over halfway done with the 120 day challenge.

Yeah, don't listen to us slick, like who you really gonna listen to really, people that have had plenty of Fcloses etc from both day and night game like myself or a few others who have posted on here giving you advise (not bigging myself up or anything), or Don, who we have both met in person who has zero game, tough choice.

Use different openers slick because it will broaden your game and will get you different reactions that will once again, enable you to improve from the different reactions and where you can lead the conversation from there, instead of it been the same conversation over and over again.

I also found that standing your ground and not following the girl worked to my advantage, because if she walked away and I started to follow it appeared that I was like stalkerish or maybe even needy and I don't really know why but seemed to go downhill from there,however, when I said my opener if they were still walking I would stand in the same place and not move my feet at all, and eventually what I found was that they would actually walk back to me and we would begin to properly talk (this works for me though due to me being cheeky and having a cheeky smile on my face all the time and been a bit cocky towards them).

Don, Would you not consider yourself an AFC?
Based on previous posts, I would class you as a Major AFC who is not qualified to give advice!

Persistance is all good but in the right situation. Chatting a girl up in a bar, club or shopping centre & following them around just makes you look weird!

Don, I will ask you again- How many women have you slept with?

I've continued to go out every day. Yesterday, a girl gave me her number (I approached her using your advice, thanks guys). We texted afterwards. This morning, I sent her a text saying "If you're free today, we should hang out". We set up a dinner date for tonight. I'm pretty nervous because this girl is so cute. After 65 days, I've finally set up a date with a girl I really like. I hope it goes well.

The date went great. An hour after it was over, she texted me about a song I should learn. I responded, saying I would look it up tomorrow. She replied 'ok, text me when you wake up tomorrow. Thanks for everything again, you are quite the gentleman'.

Day 67 (Friday June 29): Went to the mall and ran up to a 3set like I was in the street. Luckily, the security guard didn't see me. I said they were cute and I wanted to say hi. They talked to me for a minute, but half of the conversation consisted of them talking about how they had boyfriends (one of them told me his full name). They ejected shortly thereafter.

I've continued ploughing forward.

Day 70 (Monday July 2): I did a direct opener on a woman in a convenience store. She told me she has been married for 3 months and has 4 kids. She has been with the father for 6 years. After learning about that, I ejected.

Today is Tuesday and I'm finally meeting up with the girl I went on a date with last Wednesday. I set up a movie date for last Saturday, but she cancelled at the last minute because her aunt came into town unexpectedly. She apologized profusely. Tonight, I'm performing at an open mic night in a bar and she is coming to the bar to watch me perform. This should be fun.

Progress on the 120 day challenge (Approach at least one female every day for 4 months): 70/120 = 58% complete

On our date at the open mic, I tried to kiss her outside the bar, but she rejected the kiss. Later that night, when I got home, she texted me "Sorry, I wasn't being mean tonight. I just have a boyfriend". We just went on 2 dates and she's had a boyfriend since June 14th.

If The JACKAL has only had sex with 1 woman does that make it right to teach people how to get sex with any woman he wants?
Does he really know how to?
Does this mean the JACKAL is copying some one elses work or just guessing how to huck up with women?

What do you all think please?

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Update. 26/06/2012 SOLO NON STATE SELF, LESS FOOD, MORE INTENSE EXCERCISE
6 Times a week. Weekdays 4 times a day. Covers to and from work. Short interactions. I am merging sets in bars and in daygame. Using strong verbal and compliance.

Body-checking is now getting easier to do and fun. Shit testing guys for compliance handshake.

I am match-making people in bars and in daygame (I cannot help it, the teaching mode is still in me). For example a set that spoke German. I went away, then found a large group of guys. One of them spoke German, I used verbal and kino to drag him into set . He was happy. I went on to do more sets.

Finally I am doing something I would never be able to do before as a result of the micro interactions. This means that when in daygame or in a bar. I am saying hello to a set that walks by "HEY" whilst in set. This is fun.

Also something interesting. I saw Zero once walk away from a set without giving a reason. This was a very powerful way to leave. The concept being U r bored. Not the set being bored. I usually give a reason for walking away from sets. I want to do what Zero does.

Also doing strong kino on guys in bars. Getting more confident in doing this. Usually it is a soft touch.

I do worry that once I have replicated in SOLO what I have done in a group. I will then give up.

Also I am now talking to random people in the place of work with more confidence.

I have been more commanding in sets. Its the only way to stop so many people. I have been getting sets to reciprocate. Shit testing them until they do. Or calling sets over which is something I have not been able to do before. Also getting sets that are walking away to stop by using strong verbal commands. These are things I have seen in movies and watching authority figures.

Being ignored still happens, but I am dealing with rejections better. The re engagements are helping me to understand when sets are being polite and when they are being receptive.

Obesity is something I am working on now (50 pounds overweight). I had lost hope. I am now eating threes times less a day. Although I have for the last there months been walking 4 hours a day.

I was in set. When asked to sit down. I had difficulty because my fat belly came in the way. MAN at this time all I could care about, was my damn fatness is now amogging me.

Working in a Solo Non State self is hard. Sometimes it can get tiring. Sometimes large crowds are weird, and so are small crowds. It’s gonna take time to consistently feel that one has high value. The next step is it to move away from pushing oneself to teaching oneself to enjoy the process of going in and actually enjoy being in set.

I am learning to join in groups and just watch natural conversations between people and see how it plays out.

My voice is usually soft; it is difficult to maintain a large persona for more than 10 minutes. I still have not stabilised. May take another year to find out what I will become.

I have walked into a bar without having any drinks at all. Usually I feel obligated to have something. As I had been holding onto a drink like a teddy bear for comfort. Same reason people casually smoke.

Only by opening every set in sight I’m a talking to people that I would otherwise be intimidated by. It is necessary to plough with sets; otherwise walking away one learns nothing.

I have been talking to people in bus stops. Cash point queues and fast food queues. I was at first apprehensive, but i'm getting better.

I am doing different venues everyday to get rid of locational AA. Which is also exciting? I have become obsessed in eliminating any signs of comfort by changing venues. THIS IS NOT EASY.

Staying in set for longer. AIM IS FOR TWO HOURS. This is a challenge for me, can I be interesting and dominant for that length of time. I guess this is a bench mark for me. Being in set as a friendly participant is not enough. Not being able to do this yet is a very HUMBLING awareness.

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The Jackal an Introduction.
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The Field Reports.
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The Lay Reports.
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Hit the streets, walked towards snow hill train station immediately saw at least two chicks I could have approached, was 85% about to do it but got last minute AA. (FUCK!) Anyways saw to average looking blondies sitting down -3 sec rule – straight in went direct said she looked cute blah blah. My lack of warm up was evident in this set they were chatting back but was it was more of an AFC approach ie asking the standard questions. Anyways saw 2 Basian chicks (HB8) walking behind me so I slowed down, at this point was with a non pua friend. I approached indirectly by saying “I like you hair is it purple”. This particular girl was giving cold responses but her friend took it upon herself to cut across her friend and walk right next to me. I then complimented what she was wearing but also teased a bit saying she was over dressed for a Monday afternoon. With these particular girls didnt stop them instead chose to walk towards paradise forum with them as we where heading down there anyway. She offered an instand date (join us in Nandos) which I declined (not hungry+dont wanna spend money lol) anyways number closed her instead.

My success in this set was down to me being genuine e.g when she mentioned what she studied I showed a bit of interest by asking more questions. Also a lot of teasing and flirting like when she said she going Nandos I said “i like my chicken like I like my women, spicy”. For the rest of the hour I was just speaking to girls indirectly and got one fb close. I also seen one foreign looking girl with a map, i walked up and asked her if she needed help as she looked lost. gave her directions to Livery street but also kept her talking to me for 15 about Birmingham. didn't close this bird as she wasn't for me but this is just an example of how a basic conversation with a woman can leave u feeling more at ease.

Tips: looking ahead for incoming targets is cool, but always keep a close eye out on who is behind you to see them before they walk past. Once you've spotted a target, slow down you pace, and open as soon as the set is slightly ahead of u. Dont stand too close just give them that 10 seconds or so to for them to look behind and acknowledge u.

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Next Update. 27/06/2012.

Goal.
1. Must touch the shoulder before handshake. I usually do this from the back. But from the front I sometimes get intimidating. Doing this is all that counts. Once the set smiles, it does not count as I have allowed the set to build up my state by smiling.
2) To do the running kino move. I have done this with wing comfort, but on my own consistency is needed.
3) I must remember the eye colour, I am forgetting to do this. This helps maintain eye contact.
4) Deal with amogs with superior confidence, not what I usually do and be-friend them, this is submissive. I need to develop a varied skill set and not just a submissive skill set. I can be better than this.
5) I must learn to interrupt a set which are having an in depth conversation, and win them over.
6) Interrupt a set with a homeless guy. This is easy as it is sometimes clear to see which is the homeless guy. The goal is to win them all over. The next challenge is to see if I can steal the set from the homeless guy.
7) Go to large set and find out who the random guy is and try to steal the set. This will not be easy as I have never deliberately done this. I feel I can only do this when the guy looks submissive, but it will not stop me from trying even if the guy looks tough. An explanation for this is that I do this only as a way to learn amog defence which involves being an AMOG to. Just like fighting one cannot learn to block without also learning how to attack
7) Although I say hello to anyone. I must maintain my intent to stop any set, I have been for some weird reason not wanting to stop every set. However I must continue to believe that every set has a value to my learning.
Goal to go from 40 inch waist to 30 inch. Waist measurement is from the belly button.
9) I want to do a whole street in my neigbourhood knocking on doors saying hello and good evening. Sometimes I think its weird, and then sometimes I think I can do it. I guess I want to feel comfortable in my environment and like I own it. I will do one a few blocks away until I have the confidence to do my own. Sounds weird but having no real reason to do something, is a good motivator to do it. I want to develop my brain to accept to learn things that only have a small benefit. Just like losing a pound a fat week. In the long run I hope to make more friends.

I now have some clear objectives for myself, which makes things easier.

A question to you guys out there. Sometimes I tell my self I cannot do something, and then I also tell myself I'm going to do it anyway. Any idea what the brain is doing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo

Mmmm.

I am inspired by SLICK's commitment.

If I had not gone SOLO, what I have done in three months would have taken 6 years. Or even never. I have a real appreciation of how long something like this is going to take. SLICK has got a really good head start, as I do not know other PUA’s at his young age consistently doing SOLO. Most guys give up or retire when they have a GF. I guess comparing one self to others is futile. What is essential is COMMITMENT and GROWTH, this is rare. I'm I a stronger man than I was yesterday.

Those who have a strong urge to give me advice. Don't. I will ignore it. However feel free to insult my weight. It will motivate me to lose adipose tissue.

27/06/2012
Someone from work commented I have swagger. I feel good that some things are changing. Me I just feel tired all the time.

On the weekdays. I am going to different locations. Deliberately not staying too long in set to get rid of locational AA, and also the fact that I do not have that much time. The weekend is my goal for a 2 hour marathon conversation.

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Meet and Wing.

direct-game-birmingham-friends-that-wil ... 30930.html

The Jackal an Introduction.
[link]

The Field Reports.
[link]

The Lay Reports.
[link]