Why would you need to call her to confirm? If she's going - wouldn't she let you know?

Can you have her meet you there? It's less like a 'date' then, and she may be more open to being gamed.

Find somewhere to have coffee, walk in a park, find an antiques-part of town, a museum, a pond... none of which cost an arm and a leg.

RR

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well i texted her "let's do something today"
she responded pretty quickly "that she is going to sleep at her sister's house today... and on friday she is going out with her friends so what about saturday?"
two minutes later she texted again and asked "by the way when is you're flight?"
i think of replying "18th... you gave me a great idea i might go and sleep at my brother's place tonight! i'll check about saturday, talk to me on saturday morning and if i'll have no plans then we're good, btw you're cute but you're not yet on a level that i'll spend my friday night on you..."

Wordy as hell dude.

Too much convoluted crap. Big deal about sleeping at your brother's... what does it matter? It's a bed. Also, you're instructing HER to wait 2 days, THEN call and MAYBE you'll be free? If a chick told me that - I'd bounce: then and there.

The whole "You're cute, but not yet on a level that I'll spend my Friday night with you......." Um...Did you think that was a clever neg? I think it's rude as fuck (And I'm an aggressive dude!).

YOU confirm Saturday now. If you can make it - tell her and gain complaince. If not - blow her out. It's that simple.


RR

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i texted her "18th, saturday looks good"
she replied "good, it would be fun"
what do i do on saturday noon? i text her "be ready at 23:00, i'll take you to somewhere cool"
im thinking maybe to tell her to bring her guitar cause im writing songs and she is trying to become a singer so it could be easy as hell just to go to the beach here with her and sit and play some music and sing.. then maybe to go to somewhere to eat something (this method of changing places during the date so it would seem like it's a third date right?) and that's it ?
maybe it would be better to take her to a coffeeshop which is somewhat special in tel-aviv which is a cool city?

Think of the logistics compared to what you're wanting.

If you want a sing-a-long, get the guitar every time. If there are ANY issues with her (logistically) bringing it - don't worry about it. You don't NEED the tool, you just want it.

The beach is a stellar idea. Have her bring a change of clothes... start the date at your place, have her put her stuff down... THEN go to the beach. Kino there. Bounce back, and change at your place to go out for coffee. You may not NEED to go out for coffee; if you've escalated properly, a dual shower would be a great next step...


RR

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Awesome. Gonna try this too.

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yeah i liked your suggestion but can you adjust it to the situation that im living with my parents..?
btw she now texted me "what are you doing you chess-pro ? "
in fact im not doing anything.. how do i respond to this text without DLV?

Wow... I've not lived with my parents for almost 30 years... I'll let someone else hit that one...

As for what you're doing? What does it matter? WAIT to text her, then you can later backfill with: "been way too fucking busy...what's up?" It delivers the obvious message of "I'm busy!"; which can mean almost anything... but also sends the message "...did you need something?". 9/10x she will backpedal with the response... Something to the effect of "No, I was just blah blah blah....". Then you regain control. See if I'm wrong LOL.....


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i replied that "i was way too busy, what's up?" she responded "im good, watching tv "
i asked what she was watching bla bla and then i told her im going out (lie) and she said "have a good time monkey"
i said i will have a good time and that i liked the monkey...

Sorry I have not re posted, from what I have glanced over she seems to be very into your! now its your job to make the move, but be careful! and remember you are going away for a few months so do not set your self up for disappointment! The best thing I could think of at this point is to get her interest level 10 100%, get her emotionally attached to you, and then before you go tell her you really like her but since your are going away for three months you are not sure if things will work out between you, tell her when you get back you would love to hand out again!

This will spark her emotions, its will make her worry, yet still have hope, and while your gone it will make her want you even more, if you tell her "Im going away but I love you and want to be with you, so wait for me to get back!" you will look like a total afc! the problem is that right now you both have all these chemicals and hormones like oxytocin flowing through your body, and that is what happens when you are around someone you like, especially in the "honey moon" stage, but after a couple months those hormones start to wear off and that feeling starts to go away, so if you tell her a bunch of afc bullshit and that's all she has to remember you by, after a couple months she will forget all about you and move onto another more alpha guy, however if she feels that you are the ultimate alpha she will be willing to wait it out.

Use your brain man! don't get sucked into the afc trap!

thanks man.. i know she wantes me now because she initiates contact all the time but im tending to think that she is seeing me as a friend and not as a BF .. i don't know why im thinking like that.. maybe it's because the nickname she uses for me and the fact that she showed so entushaisem to hangout with me...
i have to explain that HB is only 17 years old (im one year older than her) and she is really a 9.5 and also is starting to get pretty famous here as one of her covers to a famous song is being played in pretty much every third party and bar in israel but she had only one relationship the one that ended right now...
am i miss-judging the situation and she wants me as a BF and i should just take her to the beach on saturday noon and enter the sea and escalate kino with no fear and then try to K-close? im afraid that it would be awkward in the since that she is in a state of mind that she would never be with me...

Since the age of consent varies from country to country, I'll assume that 17 is within the legal age range in your country. In my country, the age of consent is 18. Messing around with 15 year olds will get you a lifetime imprisonment while 16 to 17 girls will get you lower terms. Someone said here before (I think it's KimPa) that the age of consent in the UK is 16 so it's highly likely that other countries will have different laws when it comes to this issue.

With the disclaimer done, here's my advice.
Assume it's a done deal. If she notices any hesitation on your part, then you get blown off. Don't hesitate. This is like the martial arts when you throw a counter punch or kick. If you think that the opponent's strike will hit you first before your counter strike lands, then you'll get hit first. On the other hand, when you visualize a successful defense, then that will always be the case.

Visualize everything in your mind that it's a done deal. That visualization will give you internal confidence that girls will notice unconsciously. Hesitate and you lose. Assume it's a done deal and you win.
Pumpington always says this, and it's for a good reason: Always judge what a woman does and not what she says.

Your HB9 set the Saturday schedule herself for the hangout. That's a big compliance. If she doesn't want you she wouldn't set that day herself. If she doesn't flake on Saturday, then that's another big compliance.

Think of a ladder. The compliance ladder is a set of many actions that the girl complies with to give you what you want. Each compliance is a step upwards to your ultimate goal.

On the day of your hangout, start touching her hands at once. Never hesitate. Go for the kiss close in the middle (NOT at the end) of the hangout period. Assume it's a done deal and you'll be fine. Hesitate and you lose.

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ok so the situation is now as follows...
i texted her now and told her "i'll pick you up at 3-4pm, dress for the beach"
she replied "haha i was thinking more about the evening.. i have an exam this week and i planned to learn"
i told her "learn,learn my nerd (in hebrew it sounds better but the point is to DHV by stabilizing the fact that im a chess player which is usually associated with geeks and when i say "my nerd" i thought it might be good as im talking like i "own her" ) i'll talk to you after i get back from the beach we'll do smt cool"
i wanted her to think that im going to the beach anyway and it does'nt matter if she joins or not... and i wanted her to look forward for this cool and misterious thing we gonn'a do...
she replied "cool, prince, enjoy at the beach"
i'll add that "prince" is a very common nickname in hebrew slang for a cute guy or smt like that... she keeps using nicknames for me .. like "idodi, monkey, bubi,prince,chesspro" what does it mean? cause i see it as a friend-zone alarm... but that's how i see most of the things any girl does.

the big question now is what do i do with her tomorrow evening?!
suggestions are necessary!

time is running... any good suggestion ?

I think Cowboy already suggested parks, here: http://www.parks.org.il/BuildaGate5/gen ... mc=378~All

Museums, here: http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/htmls/home.aspx

You already have everything you need mentioned in your thread. Good luck bro.

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