I always laugh inwardly when I hear smaller guys complain about how a bigger guy pulled a woman they couldnt..me myself being a man of size..i can add a whole different perspective to this thread that otherwise wouldnt have been viewed..1)if she is a 10..she probably has dated the most attractive ..well built men or whatever..she simply wants to try something different (most likely they were all assholes also..)big guys are automatically assumed to be nice guys..which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it 2)..which I just thought of..i believe it was tyler durden that said "only virgins value themselves according to the person there with..a true player can take home a 7 and it doesnt define him..now lets reciprocate that into a females mindstate...she would be so confident in who she is..she wouldnt need tom cruise or vin diesel to validate her self-esteemm..wah-la..theres your answer!

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Attraction isn't a simple process and a woman can be attracted to a man for a ton of reasons: Social Status, Financial Status, Looks, Smell, Type(kind of complicated based on her relationships throughout her life), Personality, and even how he moves. Anyone of those things can get you laid, but the more you have the more attractive you are. Social and Financial status are within your control. Looks can be improved on by fashion, working out, etc., as well as body language, and inner game(yes you can see confidence in body language). Personality and how you move can also both be improved on but you can't change the attractiveness you appeal to her by smell (genetic) or type (her history of conditioning and relationships).

A guy like me that is heavy set (at my biggest 220 at 5'8, the only shape I was in was round) shouldn't pull tail by a lot of your guys thought process, this is completely false. A man can be attractive for a variety of reasons and while a disgustingly big guy maybe a turn off he can always improve that and make himself more attractive through status and even working out as well as personality.

It's disappointing when I come across all of this stuff about why fat guys get laid, looks mean nothing when it comes to getting laid, looks give initial attraction, but you still have to maintain that attraction as well as sexually escalate (the most important skill in getting laid more often).

When you lose weight you may get more looks but some of it is also in your body language and movement, you move younger and healthier. You also have a more relaxed body language from eating healthier and/or exercising.

Looks are important for receiving initial attraction but when it comes to getting laid, building attraction, building a connecting (you can exclude this step), and sexual escalation are skills you can develop to get you laid. I've got some "hot" friends who only "get lucky" inconsistently, while I do pretty well and I'm not physically "hot".

Long term happiness in relationships has to do with how you make her feel more than how much you make. Most women(there are always gold diggers) won't marry a man simply because he make a ton of doe when he is a douche. Why do rich people get divorced? Otherwise the poor guy would never pull the sexy girl (happens quite a bit, you notice when you work in a grocery store). If a woman feels safe, happy, and in love with you nothing else matters as far long term, not your looks, money, or anything else.

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Game can compensate for lack of looks, looks can compensate for lack of game. "Vitamin-J"


Anyways guys i just did a post if you want to get in shape, fast and easy:

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great quote, however i think that the guy who has good game will do far better in all kinds of situations or enviroments.

when you are in college.. like in biology lessons..

say out loud that you never have been sick into your entire life... that you have a extreme immune system.

woman will instinctively like you.

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The guy who sent the letter seems like a douchy arrogant guy. 'enjoys flaunting myself

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I'm just curious about what this had to do with the thread, reasoning?

Taos, I dunno...I was thinking the same thing.... but ewwwwww......... Just fucking EWWWWW............

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lol lode, what was the point of that post? cocks and jizz all around!

anyways, these kind of debates are gay, if you are fat, yeah, you can still get girls, don't let your physical appearance stop you from meeting girls, personality is super important, and you will find girls who are attracted to you, but what real value do these sort of discussions give?

being fat is attractive?, is that the point?, because I can assure you being fat is not considered attractive in the mainstream, people are socially conditioned to not be attracted to unhealthy people and girls absolutely care about if they find a guy physically attractive or not, you will find it much easier to get alot more compliance from alot more women when you are fit, yes game and confidence matter, but so do looks, trying to say it is one or the other that matters while the other doesn't is just outright retarded, if you are not physically attractive enough to the girl you will be shut down, no amount of game will make up for this and get you laid (unless you are a rapist), and if you are insecure, timid, passive-agressive, self absorbed and needy with an inability to escalate, you will also be shut down, no amount of good looks will make up for being a victim loser cunt who no one likes (for the most part)

however there are exceptions, in both areas, you will get lucky, good game with shit looks, eventually you will get lucky, keep at it, good looks with shit game, eventually you will get lucky, keep at it

the point is to improve yourself and make yourself as attractive as possible, not just say, HURRRR LOOKS DON'T MATTER, or start speeling off mystery's 80% 20% looks theory, or justifieing reasons to yourself that you don't have to improve your appearance, think for yourself, if you are overweight and think looks don't matter, lose some weight and go field test how little they matter, trust me, they make a difference

also it is important to realize that looks won't nessicarily make you confident (although they can sure effect your self esteem), they won't get you to take action either, no matter how you look, you can approach women and move things forward

With that being said i know fat and chubby dudes that get a lot of and i mean a lot of girls, kind of like the tony soprano behavior...

it depends on the scenario, maybe in a club situation harder, there are tons of women that are chubby chasers... tons... There are women that DO NOT LIKE 6 PACKS, tons, for them the dude is try hard, or they have to compete with the dude for beauty... Every woman is different... Look at most hot girls, 24+ that are super hot see who they are with, more often than none is a regular dude...However for the type of game fast, physical, sexual threat, being in shape helps tons...(club game)

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I deal with a lot of guys like "Bart" who hate on me because they want my girl. They'll try and talk bad about me to my girl saying things like he's smaller than me. He can't be hitting it right.

Hating on girl's boyfriend doesn't get you anywhere. Just makes you look bad.

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^ also it helps, Romeo and Juliet syndrome...

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There is a show called "Take Me Out". Its a spin on the dating show thing. But I been watching it and its been pretty interesting, as they had male models and good looking guys in general on the show only to be rejected by all of the girls. They also had a fat dude that did get a date on the show. But whats interesting is that most guys that have gotten dates on that show have been average looking guys basically that dress well or put them selves together well. Mind you the girls on the show are for the most part are hot, and the reasons they reject the guys have been interesting.

If anyone in the US I would suggest watching it. As I think it be bit of an eye opener. As I think it shows that while looks matter, they are not everything.

I'm not one to talk, I've liked passing pre-op trannies, and extremely feminine looking panty boys for years, but I was genuinely curious as to what this had to do with the conversation. It seems random to insert a guy who had a double life, one with vagina, and the other with cock. To me it had no purpose other than to wow the audience. Is lode trying to say that you can fake a lifestyle or live a double life? I have no clue; I hope lode answers this question.

You know I have no problem with women liking fat guys. It means they are not as shallow as most of us men when it comes to looks, but when women don't like fit guys with abs for whatever reason is seriously fucked up. The amount of work, dedication and discipline it takes do be fit and healthy is sometimes unparalleled with other aspects of life. I have lots of respect for body builders and athletes. Being able to trun down unhealthy food which virtually every restaurant has. Buying the right foods and not processed. Cooking for yourself, counting calories if needed, get enough sleep to balance your day, and having the ability to manage your life even when there are so many obstacles and haters trying to put you down to their pathetic level, is truly admirable.

I don't know how bitches can hate on that. Maybe they got used by an athletic man, or feel insecure around them. Either way I take it as a red flag related to deeper issues.