OK guys, one of my biggest problems here in Vienna is that I live quite far (30 minutes) outside of the city center by subway. From what I've heard and read, your Day 2 should be as close as possible to your home to easily get the girl back there.

I have a Day 2 today and it's pretty damned far from my place (40 minutes). She lives pretty much on the other side of the city from what I know.

She is definitely interested, and I do have a thing or two to bring up to get her back to mine as plausible deniability, but the distance still can be a problem. I tried to get her to a park near my place, but she said it was too hot and whatever (she's willing to go there with me another day though).

So, is distance a big problem do you think? I don't have a car, and I can only travel by subway or tram or taxi.

And also, if I don't F-close tonight, is there still a chance for a Day 3 to go well?

Bump.

Really? Bump.

Can you meet her at her place?

Take a quick tour, bring up a conversation piece in her living room/wherever...act as if you're learning about true historical shit. Ask open-ended, pertinent questions... "Wow, I love that statue... is it Civil War era? I have to say I'm a history buff!" Light conversation - interested in the object, not her. She's merely an instructor... Then exit from there, do your date, and go back?

Do you see that working?

The setting is different, but the comfort of you in her home should be established from earlier in the evening when you were there, made no advances whatsoever, but enjoyed and commented on things?

If not... Have her meet you near your house. Then "Oh shit, I forgot something, come with me real fast..." go in, give her a quickie tour, act as if she's a 55year grandmother, THEN leave... is there a coffee shop near you? Wine tasting? Festival?

RR

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Hey Player,

RR's advice is golden. I personally living in California have one of THEE worst logistics ever. The only choice you have is pull her back to your place (longest pull I did was 1 hour) or take it to hers but just ask her questions like COOL. you live around? Cool. Parents probably? hhaha. She may answer yes/no (in which case you're fucked) unless you see if she's willing to take you home to still fuck you...in which case...good luck...

Thanks guys, both great pieces of advice.

Captain, I feel you, near my place there is pretty much nothing apart from housing, there are areas of course which are a few stops away, I'm gonna check out a nice bar this week which is around 6 stops away or so (15 mins).

It's just this particular one lives literally at the opposite side of town, and while she does like me, she's still putting up a bit of a fight (I actually think she is slightly nuts, but whatever).

But just for the future, Rodeo your advice is awesome. Meeting her at her place.

About meeting her near mine and establishing comfort early on in the date at my place, is that essential? Thing is it would logistically be completely retarded for her or anyone to meet me near my house and then go somewhere, since our date area would most likely always be on the way to my place, so she could just say "Why don't we just meet at x?"

I wish I lived in the city center.

Unfortunately when I move to London this year, my campus is 30 mins outside the center, too, so that might be a bit of a problem, too.

Thanks again for any advice!

Hey man,

I completely feel where you are coming from. Not all of us have the luxury of living 10 minutes from a club, and personally I find unless this area is Hollywood, or actually central London and you are a millionaire, the housing spaces suck ass...

I know a lot of older guys that live in some of the worst places and I have my shit together but chose to live further out. I've been thinking of moving to LA or NYC but then looking at the housing makes me really think....is sex THAT important ? To me, not really because I am outcome independent talking to any girl. But I always go for the pull, even if I live 1 hour 20 minutes away (imagine if she Last Minute Resistances LOL) and then also having to drive a girl BACK if she does (yes this has happened).

Do you see how easy the approach is? Most guys are so terrified of the approach, but they aren't even equally terrified of closing the deal. Hahaha!

As for you man, I say use your car for sex...park in some "date location" where you can also fuck....or after the date say i just wanna get to know you before we go somewhere else, and park it in an obscure spot. And then go for her. I hardly take them back to my house or even theirs. Many will fuck in my car.

Got no car dude.

But yeah, I'll just do my best with what I've got.

That's all a player can do. Will your lays be affected? Yea...probably maybe. I know for a fact some girls would fuck me at a house but not in a car...its stupid. Just play the game.....and take it for what it is

Getting her back to your house isn't essential - it merely shortens the length of time it takes your date to get DTF.

I suggest scouring your neighborhood. Antique shops, museums, coffe shops, bagel joints, odd places, local dive bar - something distinctive and cool. You meet at your place, bounce to the date, come back and you're golden.

This past Friday, I had a day2 come over. She came inside, I got us a glass of wine, asked what she'd like to do... she hesitatied and pushed the decision back to me so I said "let's take a walk..." and took a few slices of bread and walked to a nearby pond with a pavilion. We fed snapper turtles and I escalated. When I returned, she was DTF then and there. I'd already done the prep work ahead of time...

RR

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